It can't offroad for shit in actually difficult or broken terrain, we've seen many of these things completely break their axels over curbs or collisions that most modern SUVs would be able to drive away from.

Its functionally totally unarmored.

It will probably explode/go up in flames if shot.

Also, if its electrical systems are sufficiently damaged, it will lock you out, or in.

It may or may not just stop working, or prevent itself from turning on fully if it decides to do a software update and has connectivity issues.

If the doors are damaged or your stupid key fob thing breaks, the door 'handles' are by default flush with the door panel and you cannot actually enter the vehicle.

If the central touch screen is say, shot, or maybe just bumped and cracked by an ammo box... probably you also cannot even get the thing to start.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Also, once you're close to the front line, where are you going to charge this thing? There's definitely no fast chargers, and if you do find a house with a working 220v outlet you're a sitting duck for the next 8 hours or so.

Ukrainians have been using electric bikes and scooters successfully, but a whole EV is another kettle of fish.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Conceivably they could macgyver together a diesel generator/transformer combo unit into an electrical cable that can charge a tesla?

Maybe?

I used to have a survival/backup battery/transformer combo that could be charged from portable solar panels or a wall outlet, and while I have no idea of their availability or price in Russia and Ukraine, I know there diesel generator/transformer/battery combo units or sets.

Recharging a Tesla off of solar would require basically a football field sized solar panel array though rofl, a very static and fragile target

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, then you need to transport a generator and fuel to wherever you're charging it, so you're not getting away from the same logistics issues you'd have with a Toyota Hilux.

I can only see this as a ploy to get the all time high post on r/shittytechnicals, if that still exists.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

I mean, probably it is near the top of shittiest in terms of cost and combat and logistical effectiveness...

But not on the pure aesthetics of utterly cobbled together garbage from a homeless shelter metric.

It can still get worse:

Doesn't have a cope cage yet. Is not rusted from ambient humidity or rain yet. Panels seem to be flush, that'll likely change fairly quickly. Random bits of it have not yet flown off at highway speeds yet.

Finally, the funniest possible things that could happen:

Ukraine hacks the thing remotely and autopilots it, empty, to crash into a jet at a nearby airfield, or a known location with a ballistic missile inbound, or just drives it off a cliff, etc.

[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

I mean, if you could get a slave cable adapter you could probably charge it off of any nearby military vehicle...

But then you're still running another vehicle, idle, to charge it.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

8 hours

More like 3 days. A Tesla 3 standard range takes 10 hours on 240V @15A

Cybertrucks have big batteries

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 1 points 3 months ago

Oh yeah, sure, I meant to get some range to at least get away from the immediate front line.

[–] Bookmeat@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

If you slam any of the doors shut you won't be able to open them again.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh, the noise is a good point. I do recall reading an article about use of EVs talking about potential utility for reconnaissance. Fair enough.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Not really. Vehicles of that size are not stealthy from a visual perspective, and far enough away to avoid visual detection makes it likely that engine sound isn't going to give it away. Plus the limted range and lack of offroad ability makes it worse than something as simple as a motorcycle.

Now and electric motorcycle would be small and mobile enough to get close enough for the reduced sound to let it get a little closer. But at that point drones are far, far superior for reconnaissance.

[–] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Tire noise is also fairly loud in all vehicles

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

I could have sworn either the Abrams X or the Black Panther have an optional electric only mode, with onboard batteries that charge from the main engine, to allow either a moderate ability to move significantly more quietly or basically idle/hunker down at near silence.

While a tank being moved by a batteries is still quite loud up close, not using the incredibly loud engines would make it harder to hear from a decent distance away and could have legitimate tactical uses.

Also apparently Ola has made and will be selling a 120mph capable fully electric motorcycle in SE Asia: https://www.olaelectric.com/motorcycles

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Not to worry a drone with a spritzer bottle will deactivate it quickly.