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In an open letter published on Tuesday, more than 1,370 signatories—including business founders, CEOs and academics from various institutions including the University of Oxford—said they wanted to “counter ‘A.I. doom.’”

“A.I. is not an existential threat to humanity; it will be a transformative force for good if we get critical decisions about its development and use right,” they insisted.

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[–] donuts@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

AI scraping and stealing people's art is literally nothing like a search engine.

Maybe that would hold up if the original artist was paid and credited/linked to, but right now there is literally zero upside to having your artwork stolen by big tech.

[–] PeterBronez@hachyderm.io 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

@donuts would you please share your thinking?

I certainly agree that you can see the current wave of Generative AI development as “scraping and stealing people’s art.” But it’s not clear to me why crawling the web and publishing the work as a model is more problematic than publishing crawl results through a search engine.

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[–] PeterBronez@hachyderm.io 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@donuts

For example, image search has been contentious for very similar reasons.

  1. You post a picture online for people to see, and host some adds to make some money when people look at it.
  2. Then Google starts showing the picture in image search results.
  3. People view the image on Google and never visit your site or click on your ads. Worst case, google hot links it and you incur increased hosting costs with zero extra ad revenue

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[–] PeterBronez@hachyderm.io 2 points 1 year ago

@donuts

I certainly think that a Generative AI model is a more significant harm to the artist, because it impacts future, novel work in addition to already-published work.

However in both cases the key issue is a lack of clear & enforceable licensing on the published image. We retreat to asking “is this fair use?” and watching for new Library of Congress guidance. We should do better.

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