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[–] Taako_Tuesday@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

A few weeks ago I stopped at a mcdonalds and caught what looked like the manager packing burgers with his bare hands. Like, grabbing the patty, bun, lettuce, everything without gloves. I tried to take a picture but he saw me staring and put some gloves on.

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 30 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Gloves in a kitchen is just an illusion of hygiene. The gloves can be dirty and hands can be washed while gloves can't. So what you've actually done is pressured a hapless manager into following an arbitrary rule and I don't think that's very nice of you.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

100% this.

I've seen shops where workers are handling food and then working the register all with the same gloves on.

Then there's this Korean spot I go to for fried chicken. They process payment and then put on fresh gloves right next to the register. Not making a show of it. Just workflow. Then they go handle/pack food and discard gloves after handing your order over.

Blew my mind.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

They aren't following health codes and should be reported. People not following rules IS NOT evidence for those rules being useless.

Or do you think murder should be legal because some do it anyways?

[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If I saw murder as frequently as fast food employees taking payment and handling food with the same gloves, yes. Absolutely should be legal for me to murder someone for taking my parking spot.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Wrong. Skin has FAR more crevices than gloves, has more bacteria naturally on it, and has literal body fluid coming off of it.

If you think skin is as sanitary as gloves, you are a moron who knows nothing of basic germ theory or the foggiest idea of how gross biology is.

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I know I can just wash my hands and be clean enough to handle food! It's my job after all. This actually isn't the first time I've been challenged by someone quoting all kinds of irrelevant scientific concepts: once I said you can wash veg in cold tap water (which is true where we live!) and this young squirt piped up going on about stillwater, breaking surface tension, bacteria... the knowledge apparently isn't worth much without real world experience!

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You can cite "conventional wisdom" all you want.

It will NEVER. EVER make skin less germ-prone than a fresh glove. Obstinance doesn't make you right. It makes you a fool.

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, for one thing, I'm citing the opposite of conventional wisdom, and for the other thing, I'm not saying hands are more or less germ-prone than fresh gloves; I'm arguing the opposite, namely, that they're as clean as each other. You should really pay attention before being such a sarky cunt.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They are, in fact, NOT "as clean as each other". That is stupid and what I said still directly refutes that stupid thought.

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

For handling food, they certainly are as clean as each other! Unless you think gloves magically repel dust and so on while sitting in the open box on the kitchen shelf?

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Again, you are only demonstrating how withered and underdeveloped your idea of germ theory is...

Do you think germs live well on a mostly sterile surface that contains no food or biological material? Or literally ON biological material?

You're not even making arguments about how the food itself can be contaminated, or that behavioral patterns can make the glove harder to notice when it gets dirty. No... they're just equivalent... fucking pathetic thought process, there bud.

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Or literally ON biological material?

That you've just washed? Nope! On a glove that's been worn so long it's got shite all over it? Yep!

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Cherry picking to sound smart. Besides, your hand is literally biology that can not only absorb chemicals, put puts off chemicals of its own. You're just plain wrong, and your obstinance is pathetic.

[–] MadBob@feddit.nl 1 points 2 months ago

Cherry picking to sound smart.

It was my point to begin with so I'm bringing it back within context!

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

That's why we wouldn't let undergrads wear gloves until the later years where they use toxic material. Better one kid gets a drop of acid on their hand than them spreading it everywhere.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Isn't it normal for food service workers to just wash their hands rather than wear gloves? I don't think I've ever seen gloves at a fast food place.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 2 months ago

They're supposed to wash their hands and wear gloves. And, at least at the ones I work at, there are boxes of gloves at nearly every station so there's no excuse to not have any on.

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago

It's normal in restaurants that aren't fast food

[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 4 points 2 months ago

No its not normal. And it was an easy way to get fired at the restaurants I worked. Zero tolerance rules on food safety.

[–] droans@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I don't think there's a single state in the US that allows you to make food without gloves.

The only exception I've seen is when you're dealing with the ingredients before they've been cooked, like with pizzas.