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[–] mohammed_alibi@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So we're going to put tariffs on things where there aren't even domestically-sourced options? WTF?

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

That's the point of tariffs...to give domestic supply a shot.

It's stupid and short-sighted in a modern economy. It's not worth it for any manufacturer to shut down existing mega factories and build new ones here. They won't find enough people to do the jobs (especially if we deport/denaturalize a ton of people) and the costs and re-investments are huge.

Plus the only places that are left to build giant factories are distant from population centers. And I doubt there will be mass transit into them. So more pollution from personal transportation. And more pollution from local factories. Ripping the EPA to shreds will help with that, and that's a part of agenda 47.

And you just know the ones that choose to come and build here are gonna get really nice tax breaks to do so, so there won't be any real return for the community for a long time, if ever.

The end result is either they pass the costs into consumers, or they cut costs by laying off their expensive state-side employees and moving their positions abroad. American middle-class loses bigly either way.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 6 points 3 weeks ago

The natural destination of the US is a giant for-profit prison that leases convicts to businesses.

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

Plus the only places that are left to build giant factories are distant from population centers.

You're forgetting about eminent domain. Clearly, giant factory on American soil is a public good, even if it's privately owned. Hence, the government will seize the homes and give the land to the corp. The prices of the houses will fall first, because who wants to buy a house that's going to get bulldozed, reducing the compensation the government has to pay to the homeowners, potentially causing them to be upside down on their mortgages. This will leave them with nothing, or potentially even debt, when their homes get sized.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

That's exactly the problem. We don't, and in many places can't, make things here.

A lot has to do with access to resources. China is dominating in electronics in part because they essentially (but not really) colonized most the world that has good silicon.

But moving manufacturing around the world, to a place where literally everything is more expensive, is an costly endeavor that simply won't be worth it for most businesses.