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[–] vzq@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

If Russia starts nuking shit, wouldn’t Russia be starting ww3?

Or are we supposed to just accept the implication that only western countries have agency?

[–] Sagittarii@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago

I doubt Russia will actually use nukes, what with MAD and all.

Then again, people said the same thing about the invasion. Russia doesn't have a no-first-use nuclear weapons policy like the USSR did, so they could use them if they deem the country to be under existential threat.

[–] Scorpius@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is clearly a response to the US allowing strikes inside Russia.

Interesting timing to do that when Ukraine, Germany and Russia have been gearing up to negotiate an end to the war next year. Wonder if this is to give the west more leverage in the negotiations or to escalate to give the republican admin next year a tougher time.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 10 points 3 days ago

So you're saying Russia has never struck inside Ukraine. Or somehow The US started the war in Ukraine.

Or is it just a freaking stupid idea that one nation can attack another. And expect them not to retaliate.

[–] vzq@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Interesting timing to do that when Ukraine, Germany and Russia have been gearing up to negotiate an end to the war next year

Threatening nuclear war under these circumstances is definitely an interesting timing.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Behold the power of western intellect.

[–] mistahbenny@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

you're such a braindead troll, it's silly

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'd be so insulted if I had a shred of respect for you opinions

[–] mistahbenny@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

yet you still responded, good job

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

aww it's so adorable that you think it was for your benefit

[–] mistahbenny@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

that thought didn't even come by my mind, how rude

[–] mistahbenny@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Russia is the victim in this situation, actually. Don't you all get it? >:c

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The favorite weapon of the westoid, acting like the biggest imbecile in the world and claiming history starts not when they choke you, but when you break their wrist so you can breathe.

[–] vzq@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Let’s take this metaphor at face value for a second.

What in the endless litany of grievances you call history could possibly justify pressing the launch button at this particular junction in time?

I’m serious, make the best possible case you can for Russia starting a nuclear war right now.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That the US is letting Ukraine use NATO missiles and guidance systems that could carry a nuclear warhead they've ALWAYS kept a doctrine of first use for. This new doctrine is still not as aggressive as the American one, and this was the entire reason for the conflict, NATO not pointing nuclear weapons at Russia minutes from Moscow. This latest attack was aiming for nuclear infrastructure. How much more provocative does it get?

Americans really need to shut the fuck up about Russia starting a nuclear war when they're the ones instigating and funding conflict and blocking the peace talks Ukrainians want. When Iran gets tired of Israel and the US endlessly massacring civilians over there you chicken hawk libs are gonna pretend they developed nuclear weapons just to be mean.

You really really care about the Ukraine war? Get shipped there so they don't have to kidnap citizens out of weddings to put them on the front line. Otherwise, shut up and stop trying to kill the rest of us with you.