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An awkward reunion (lemmy.world)

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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

As far as I recall from interviews and such this actually requires love, of which dark siders aren't capable. My guess is that Qui-Gon or Obi-Wan gave Anakin some flash instructions and he got it quickly due to being the chosen one.

[–] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

How can dark siders not be capable of love? Love is the very thing that caused Anakin to turn and the dark side is all about using your emotionality to your advantage. I'm not saying you're wrong necessarily, just that whoever made that cannon is fucking stupid.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 12 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

It wasn't love that turned Anakin. It was his fear of loss. Love for his son actually let him find his way back to the light.

By the end Anakin's love for Padmé was twisted, cowardly and selfish. Palpatine manipulated it until just desperation was left. Anakin didn't even trust her anymore when she confronted him on Mustafar.

[–] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 4 points 18 hours ago

Love and trust, contrary to popular belief, are not mutually exclusive. The perfect example is the parents of a shithead teen. Also, while I agree that Anakin was turned because of his bond and the way that Palpatine manipulated him through it, to say that he didn't love Padme is simply untrue. What makes us fear loss of a loved one if they aren't a loved one? Fear of loss is innately connected to his love for Padme, which is the reason that jedi aren't supposed to have attachments so as not to be influenced by their emotions. The issue with it is that he stepped into the emotionality and let the fears, angers, etc. that come alongside love to win him over. Furthermore, it is unclear that he ever really returns from the dark side. He saves his son, but in doing so breaks the same code that he broke in order to try to save Padme. It just so happens that his son was one of the good guys. My argument here is that he was still a dark-sider, or at least quasi-darksider and could have still learned to become a force ghost through that.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

It's really sad how in 2 movies we didn't see enough of this for it to become obvious.