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[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Unfortunately is not that simple, now Google is pushing a new standard web environment called WEI and all browsers will be affected with it. Is not just a matter of free choice.

[–] bazo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Wait what? New standard prohibits any AdBlock?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We'll see if sites really start forcing this standard, could just turn into a situation where you use Chrome as an app to access specific sites that force it and Firefox for everything else.

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The late stage of capitalism will force sites to adopt the WEI. Trust me. Privacy will be a luxury good in near future.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The FOSS community is big enough that most things will have a non fucked foss counterpart if that happens. Of course hopefully that doesn't need to happen

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Maybe a new form to navigate the web will emerge from the FOSS community. I really hope all of us join this to support the new web that we need to make to fight back the big tech greed. Some through code expertise and others through money donates to support the projects that we love. But I don't want to be much idealistic about the future. I' m just dreaming high

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

Foss needs to break compatibility with WEI clients in the web servers. Yes, big companies will work around it, but it would do two things.

  1. Be enough of a pain for people to notice the web had split.
  2. Send a loud message that embrace and extend is not acceptable.
[–] quat@lemmy.sdfeu.org 1 points 1 year ago

The Gopher renaissance era perhaps?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At that point we might see a split between corporate and open internet.

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If and only "if" this split occur. Unfortunately only few tech conscious people about the importance of free internet as a whole and privacy will adhere to it. Will not be a big movement to harm the core of the big tech.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

There is no split if chrome works on everything and Firefox works on half of stuff.

Firefox just gets labelled as broken.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

My perspective on this is that it's about sustainability as opposed to trying to compete with big tech in a zero sum game. For example, Mastodon or Lemmy aren't able to compete with commercial platforms in terms of users, but that doesn't mean they're not viable communities. I can see a future where there's a niche open internet that exists independently of the commercial one and I think that would be fine. As long as there are enough people to do development on platforms and browsers and to produce content, that's all that really matters. In fact, a split might even be better because then we wouldn't have companies interfering with how the network operates.

[–] SyJ@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Banks will force it pretty quickly. I can't bank on a rooted android already.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I think banks and online stores are the most likely early adapters of this.