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Yall gonna crucify me like the degenerate I am but... GET THE HELL OUT OF THE U.S.

Et-hnm Literally go anywhere else, I know we have more of the U.S. to cover (geographicly) but I'd like to see how other communities are doing, also even if you leave English as the language CHANGE IT SOME.

They've had the same general dialect since wastelands, I mean yeah we hear different accents but the general verbiage and stuff has always been far too accessible in my opinion. Language changes with situation and culture. I'd imagine having a nuclear apocalypse would cause more variation but alas no such luck.

And make it so different communities refer to the critters differently, why does everyone call deathclaw deathclaw, mole rats, rad-roach.... give us unique variations. Make us afraid of El Demonios Gris. But again I want a build up to it like in the isometric fallouts.

What do yall think is this too much of a pipe dream?

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[–] CoffeeGrounds@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its been a while since I've brushed up on my fallout lore, but weren't the bombs pretty much exclusively dropped on America? Idk if it's ever stated anywhere whether other countries had bombs dropped on them; if so then I'm with you, but if not then I feel like it'd break the fallout aesthetic to explore a region that isn't a nuclear wasteland with craters and radiation all over the place. Like I feel like it'd be kinda boring if we were walking around through Paris or something and it's completely unscathed except for everyone being dead due to the nuclear winter and all that.

Idk, just kinda talking outta my ass here, but if the lore supports it then it'd be pretty cool to go somewhere new for a change.

[–] dj3pic@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think those are the only ones we know about doesn't necessarily mean that's all of them. And I seem to recall one of the newspaper loading screens for fo3 showing europ with a like launch radius graphic over France or something... or was that something from a fan work?

Anywhere the thing is The bombs aren't important. Yes they've become a primary symbol of the series but in the end (to me at least) what makes fallout Fallout is the struggles to rebuild. We have seen it on soo many different scales, the lone wanderer rebuilding their life after its flipped upside down by James leaving, the chosen one rebuilding after arroyo is taken, the vault dweller adapting ti life outside the vault and then going on to (in most canons) to be the guardian of the vault and founding arroyo.

I honestly feel like 4 and 76 kinda missed the mark, 4 tried to do something with the sole survivor but they went too M. Night on it I think. And 76... it's an mmo with fallout like aesthetics to me (I don't mean this as rude as it sounds).

[–] solarknight@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The bombs aren’t important what makes fallout Fallout is the struggles to rebuild

The whole theme is how nobody wins in war. There can’t really be any rebuilding in south america (which is what you argue for because you live there) because there were no bombs. The interesting technology core to the series like fusion wouldn’t even take place in SA due to lack of american militarism.

Countries not Canada/USA were:

Not bombed during the great war Not in an arms race leading to development of fusion tech They have no power armor, mutants, or recognizable villains No reason to rebuild other than scarcity (excluding europe and middle east)

In an earlier comment you described south/latin america as possibly an NCR trade route. I believe FO4 source code has unused data for a mutant whale, implying the existence of mutated sea creatures. It would take several centuries for the NCR to build a nation large enough to have international trade.

[–] Kes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

76's focus on rebuilding is honestly one of its stronger aspects. The whole lore with >!the Responders, Free States, and Appalachian BoS working together and rebuilding the region for the 3 decades after the bombs dropped to their desperate last stand against the scorched plague, the Secret Service working post war to establish a new, more stable currency post war than bottle caps, and the surviving Responders working with the survivors of the Enclave at the Whitesprings to bring order to Appalachia and The Pitt!< really makes Appalachia feel like a region trying to pull itself together versus the largest settlement in 4 being a bunch of dirty scrap metal shacks in an abandoned baseball stadium over 200 years after the bombs dropped