The utility land owners provide is absorbing the risk of property value fluctuations and facilitate quicker transfer than buying and selling. But they charge exorbitantly for it.

[–] dyerat@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

a government can do the same

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A government could do any utility providing activity.

[–] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

They sure could.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So the government would be the landlord

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the democracy the government can be influenced, working for people, and providing utilities and not trying to profit on every interaction.
US democracy is very much broken so you can't see how it would work, but that's the idea.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I wasn't even thinking of the US. Why is that the default for so many people?

There's load of different systems and governments. I'm just saying making the government the landlord wouldn't necessarily be any better.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

US is default on the internet, that's just how it is. I'm not from US either but still living in this paradigm.

I’m just saying making the government the landlord wouldn’t necessarily be any better

Yeah, obviously it wouldn’t necessarily be any better but it's hard to be worse

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's loads of very dysfunctional and corrupt governments. I can see how a very corrupt and faraway government entity being your landlord might be worse than renting from someone who lives in the building or something.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, and dying in prison because you disrespected the glorious leader is worse than living under the bridge because you can't afford a rent working three jobs.
But if we were to think of a system that will be an improvement, switching from barely regulated ancap dream to something managed not by profit but by desire to give people necessities is better for society. And it will have to involve a government.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here renting is very much controlled on both sides.

And it will have to involve a government.

I'd imagine some anarchists disagree haha

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

In the future anarchists envision the concept of rent doesn't exist. Unless they're ancaps, but those can put their disagreement back to the dark place they crawled out of

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