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Hi all! Relatively new (or new to PF2e) GM here. Last night one of my players who is playing a Summoner raised the question of whether he can attempt Treat Wounds twice every hour instead of once since his Eidolon is a separate target (ie. Someone treats the Summoner's wounds and then immediately treats the Eidolon's wounds). I ruled in the moment that I didn't think that sounded right, my reasoning being that they share a health pool and the PC shouldn't be able to double its benefits solely because of which class it is. Can anyone tell me what the RAW is here, ideally with an AON reference I can point him to?

Edit: I found this thread which seems to suggest that I made the wrong call. I'd love to have a more official answer, but I think the idea that healing is supposed to be trivialized by certain combos makes sense.

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[โ€“] risa@pathfinder.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

"You spend 10 minutes treating one injured living creature."

the eidolon is not injured, because it doesn't take damage. the summoner takes all the damage and the healing. and if the summoner is immune to treat wounds then there can be no healing.

can't find anything more concrete about this in RAW tho ๐Ÿค” but, it just feels cheating and therefore i personally wouldn't allow it.

[โ€“] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I agree it feels cheesy, which is why I didn't allow it. But my player seemed confident that it worked RAW.

I assumed the word "injured" there was just flavour text. Is that actually the RAW reason why it wouldn't be allowed or is that your interpretation? I feel like there should be a more concrete ruling, but my player will probably accept that.

[โ€“] risa@pathfinder.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

for me as a gm i always consider how everyone at the table feels about it. allowing one pc to double heal while nobody else gets that might seem unfair to the other players. so, i would ask them how they feel about this.

[โ€“] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Excellent point. I might just ask them. I think the RAW is against us here, but it does feel a bit unbalanced. I'll ask people if they mind, because I suspect they won't. The Summoner has been one of the only frontliners, so I'm guessing the party will be fine with them getting some extra heals

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