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[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Power running killed Cam.

I think he was always incredibly overrated as a passer, but high impact plays add up for all the other positions, too. They're not going to magically be OK at QB. The fact that part of the position is so technical (actually passing) makes abuse inherently more impactful.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cam got ran into the ground because that's all he could do...

I'm saying a 6'4 230lb QB can take sacks better than a 5'10" 180lb QB. Not that size makes them invincible.

Play like an RB and no one is going to be surprised when your career is as short as most RBs. Play like a QB and that extra size means you take hits better.

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're discussing a play where they treat him like a short yardage back.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A short yardage back runs a dive...

They dont form a scrum where their own players surround them so they never take a direct hit. That's the rule change mentioned in the article no one else apparently read

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, they do. People pushing runners in short yardage didn't start with Hurts.

Hurts absolutely gets beat up on these plays. It's not even sort of different in any functional way from a fullback dive.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, I was going to quote the article you still haven't read, but it really isn't that long and you should just read the whole thing.

Then you can email the author, I'm sure they'd love to hear from Random Internet Guy that they're wrong.

Best of luck!

[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Did you read the article? It tells you teams have been pushing runners since the rule change almost 20 years ago, and makes no assertion (let alone evidence) that it is in any way safer for the ball carrier than any other short yardage carry.

It's more effective because it hits quicker, because it's a QB. Shocking, since Tom Brady also had an extremely high success rate on QB sneaks, right?

But absolutely no one is claiming it magically removes the fact that smashing the shit out of your QB is heavy wear.