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They stole the internet from the people and we have to take it back (media.kbin.social)
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[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I don't want to be "this guy", but what we have here is a screenshot of a ~~Tweet~~ post without even a link or a date. It's the best way to go back to the same old system that we have left behind us. This is whitepeopletwitter in a nutshell.

Edit, seriously it looks like you framed a "motivation speech". Just post the link to the text, don't screenshot a text, we cannot do anything with it. We have the tools now, use them

[–] harmonea@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Stepping in here to yell at you guys for downvoting this guy: Everyone was all for this idea of undated screenshots being shit JUST YESTERDAY. Are you downvoting because he's been downvoted, or because you disagree (STILL BAD), or because you genuinely think this comment is unconstructive?

Please don't let the reddit "hivemind vote" come over here too.

[–] johnson_waters@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

fyi you can get to people's profiles via kbin.social/u/username like on reddit

also it's just a comment with someone's opinion. what is the issue exactly

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No. Look at the image again, we don't have the instance of the user.

also it's just a comment with someone's opinion. what is the issue exactly

It's a motivation speech. Add a parrot and you have an "advice animals". Have you not noticed how reddit became this repository of snapshot of Tweets and tiktioks? That's what you want?

[–] thanevim@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hear what you're saying, and I understand why it's generally a good idea to offer a permalink to the tweet/post/whatever.

That being said, there's been instances (especially with regards to certain politicians on Twitter) where having the screenshot has been paramount, as the original post gets deleted.

So we're left with a few choices as I see it:

  1. Link the original post and be done with it. Risk of the original post being deleted, making your post useless.

  2. Link a screenshot. You could add the link to the original post in the comments

  3. Link an archive version. A great idea, but sets an expectation for the average user to have to copy the link to the post, go to the wayback machine, add a manual snapshot, then make a kbin/Lemmy/whatever post to the archived snapshot

[–] PabloDiscobar@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

But look at what we lose in the process of screenshooting a post:

  • We cannot write an answer to the OP
  • We have no follow-up of the conversation started by the original post
  • OP cannot edit his screenshot
  • OP cannot answer our discussion
  • OP doesn't even know that his post is discussed elsewhere
  • We have no connection with OP between our instance and his.

In short, we have lost all the advantages of the fediverse, for what? For the graphics, for the white on black background which reminds of Twitter. It's a terrible trade.

That being said, there's been instances (especially with regards to certain politicians on Twitter) where having the screenshot has been paramount, as the original post gets deleted.

Editing what you said is a right. You have the right to change your opinion. It's in fact a virtue. If you see something interesting in the comment, use the ~~symbol~~ and edit your post, and say that you changed your mind.

Link the original post and be done with it. Risk of the original post being deleted, making your post useless.

I like it. If you think you posted by mistake, if there was a misunderstanding or if you fucked up..... well, I think it's a good idea that the fediverse allows you to make things right.

Link a screenshot. You could add the link to the original post in the comments

Forget the screenshots. It's like using binary with git.

Just make it live, use the fediverse as it is supposed to be used and see where it leads us. We'll see how Ernest & Co can make something based on the fediverse which makes the process way more fluent and intuitive.

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Without a date or any way to source the comment, it could be something from 2-3 years ago.

Obviously it's not in this case, but it's a very real issue on reddit (in fact there was a post recently) of people debating topics that were being reposted by bots from several years ago. Basically it lets people dredge up old, already talked about topics without bringing any recent relevance to the topic.

[–] a_mac_and_con@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I see they added the username, but not the link to where it came from. Which I happened to stumble upon while meandering through articles.