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Artix for my desktop and Alpine for my pi. I like my minimalism and hate systemd with a passion.
May I ask for the reason why you hate systemd with passion?
Mainly just the bloat. Using alternatives (like
runit) tend to have faster boot times and are arguably more secure. Most malware for Linux usually attack your system using systemd (like the current Minecraft malware). If you don't have systemd, then the malware can't affect you.That's also the same reason why I completely removed
sudoand just use rdo instead (a project my friend whipped up within a few days because of a bet).I see your point. It is probably inevitable that malware will target the most common piece of software you will find.
After using 2 years runit on Void and 2 years OpenRC on Gentoo I eventually made the switch to systemd-based distros when I realised on my server how powerful journalctl and systemd services were for managing and debugging a long running service. Also user services and timers are so much more powerful and error prone than cron jobs or starting services from shell scripts. Don't want to invalidate your point, we just have different requirements :D
Over the last 2 days I have tried installing both Artix Openrc and Arch with systemd. Both times something was broken with the OS, although I'm not sure if it was just a skill issue on my end or not. However, reinstalling Artix Runit was pretty much seamless. I now think I may be cursed and that I'm now bound to that OS for all of enternity...
At least it is a somewhat reasonable OS ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I almost contemplated installing Debian LTS as a guaranteed to work OS...
If you got Artix+runit running, why bother ^^
I only considered it in case I didn't get it to work