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[–] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Karma and all the issues it brings

[–] Ilikecheese@vlemmy.net 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I saw a post about how there is no Karma on Lemmy, but every user still has post scores and comment scores displayed. Isn’t that literally the exact same thing?

[–] FreeAZ@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm guessing here, but upvotes and downvotes are still useful as a tool to sort the better replies from the shitty ones, but I don't think Lemmy keeps track of your "karma" on your profile like reddit. Hopefully that will stop people from just posting bullshit to karma farm.

[–] Ilikecheese@vlemmy.net 3 points 1 year ago

It does keep track, but not all apps display it. Several do, the one I use, wefwef, does so I assumed they all did, but that’s not the case.

[–] voidhearts@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is what I have been trying to figure out

[–] Ilikecheese@vlemmy.net 3 points 1 year ago

I just read in another thread that the scores are only visible in some apps, but not others. I have only been using wefwef, and it’s visible there(although supposedly not correctly), but I guess not everywhere so most people seem to think the scores don’t exist.

It’s wonky, but that’s kind of part of the charm, I guess.

[–] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I was referring more to an account's total karma, but well, yeah they're mostly the same now that I think about it. I guess you can't really have a social platform without a similar system.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What actual issues did it cause? As someone who never paid it any mind, I don't really understand what tangible impact it had on anything.

[–] gressen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Bots farming karma for account resale. Constant reposting of any material that can yield some useless internet points made many communities infested with mediocrity and repetition.

[–] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't say they're "huge" issues, but I didn't like the system because it made cases like these happen:

  • People with big karma numbers (100k or more) that only posted shitposts and/or reposts, and people wanting to buy these accounts just for a bit of funny internet points.
  • New users having to comment on subreddits they're not interested in due to minimum karma requirements, which may increase lurkers. I understand they were trying to stop trolls and bots, but I'm not sure if this was the best solution.
  • Some people simply downvote comments containing opinions that they don't agree with, which are later collapsed by default for having low karma counts. This discourages potentially interesting discussions and punishes people for not agreeing with the majority of users in any sub, creating echo chambers.