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[–] ZMonster@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I am assuming you posted this in jest, so forgive me if I've missed the bus, but these are actually very important things to ask for everyone when approached by LE. Charges get dismissed when they answer them wrong or inaccurately. I many cases, they do not have the right to withhold an articulable suspicion, so getting their lack of a response is extremely important, and these two questions are how you get that.

That said, people can also use them to be obnoxious, so I also assume that might have been the joke here. Sorry again. I'm very dense.

[–] chetradley@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Several years ago I was unlawfully arrested for refusing to sign a medical release. I fought the charge and had it dropped, but the experience was extremely upsetting.

In the US, law enforcement can and will:

Attempt to coerce you into incriminating yourself. Attempt to trick you into consenting to a search of your property. Attempt to stop you for long enough to find evidence or suspicion of a crime, or provoke you into commiting one.

Everyone should know how to exercise their rights to politely but firmly deal with this behavior.

[–] ZMonster@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

100%

That's rough, I'm sorry you had to deal with that. I went through a situation where the cop made threats, harassed me at work, and followed me around for a week because I had witnessed him planting evidence and discretely told him in case he didn't realize what he was doing was a crime. I honestly thought he would appreciate the discretion or at the very least inform me of why I was wrong. Nope, he went irrational. So I learned my rights and admittedly was an obnoxious dick the first opportunity I had to exercise them. My response wasn't far off from this thread's top comment. It didn't get me arrested but the guy was furious and made every effort to fuck me over. Luckily he was incompetent and the judge dismissed the docket then chewed him out for wasting the courts time. After that, I've remained courteous and civil with cops, but they only get what I am legally required to say, and not another word.

ACAB

[–] chetradley@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Jesus. Good on that judge though.

[–] ZMonster@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah, it could have been worse. I was very fortunate.

[–] stealthfiction@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] ZMonster@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Lol, subtlety is the true soul of wit.

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nope. You nailed it. I actually ask these questions.

[–] ZMonster@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Lol, thanks, my apologies if my responses was superfluous.