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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 88 points 9 months ago (2 children)

But it can be paid by a PAC.

So basically the same thing.

[–] MammyWhammy@lemmy.ml 52 points 9 months ago (3 children)

His entire campaign raised ~$330M in 2016 election cycle. At the very least it's a massive hit to the funds they have to spend.

[–] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 30 points 9 months ago (5 children)

He's going to try to stiff the court. I'd bet money on it. He's going to hide behind his lawyers and try to claim the law doesn't apply the same way to an ex president. Just to delay long enough for the election.

The real test of our democracy will be whether or not they just arrest him when he tries that.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 36 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Not possible in this case, unless appeals court stays judgement then he's only got 30 days from now to pay up, or else the government can start seizing assets.

There's already a ban on transferring assets, and his businesses will have a court appointed monitor who will have the authority to review ALL payments the company makes. Also he can't cover the payment with loans from any bank or other financial institution registered in New York, which is most of them, lmao

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago

In order to appeal he has to put 110% of the amount owing in escrow.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Who gets to start seizing property first? The State of New York or E Jean Carroll?

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

I assume Carroll, as her judgements deadline to pay will come sooner.

[–] Ullallulloo@civilloquy.com 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Uh, I don't think New York law provides for debtors' prisons anymore. Those went out of style in the 1700s.

The way a court actually handles an unpaid judgment is it just orders the seizure of any property the debtor does own. It doesn't need permission.

[–] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago

That's fair. It'd be more than the court has done so far

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Worth pointing out that there's interest on it until it's paid. Currently NY interest on judgements is 9%.

[–] hglman@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

At what point do they take assets?

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

No clue, but the interest will pile up until they do

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

Presumably after the deadline stated in the order.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

DeSantis has previously stated he won't extradite the Cheeto to NY. So in event of arrest warrant he'd just stay away from NY like he already does or til he is president and he isn't able to be arrested over that.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 months ago

So they seize the assets of his companies in NY and he can never do business there again. I'm sure they'd see this as an absolute win.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

He can crash on Ronda's couch when they seize Mar-a-Lago

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago

He's going to try to stiff the court.

If he does, they can seize assets.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

But does that count as actual campaign funds or campaign funds + PAC money? Because the latter is the issue. PAC money can be spent however the PAC wants on whatever the PAC wants and PACs can also be funded with donations of any size (and by anyone from any country). Thanks, SCOTUS.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 23 points 9 months ago

That's like four trillion rubles.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He has a leadership PAC. That is where you put the explicit bribes.

He can direct the money to pay his legal bills.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

This whole thing seems like what would be a slap on the wrist for those of us who aren't fabulously wealthy and powerful.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

With as much as his name is in the headlines, he may not have to spend as much.

His base seems willing to prove the old adage "I don't care what they say about me in the papers, as long as they spell my name right ".

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Aren't they broke now? He already spent it on legal fees up to this point.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I mean, that's what Trump's financial paperwork says, so we really have absolutely no idea

[–] orbitz@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 months ago

I think the financial monitor was added on for three years too, so they got people watching, hopefully.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

I mean the PACs that people were donating to instead of the GOP, didn't something like $40,000,000 go to pay lawyers and such for Trump?