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Europe will lose all credibility if Russia wins in Ukraine, warns French president Macron (www.telegraph.co.uk)
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The war in Ukraine is “existential for our Europe and for France”, Mr Macron said in the interview on France 2 and TF1.

“Do you think that the Poles, the Lithuanians, the Estonians, the Romanians and the Bulgarians could remain at peace for a second [in the event of a Russian victory in Ukraine]?” he asked. “If Russia wins this war, Europe’s credibility would be reduced to zero.”

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[–] bolzolol@feddit.de 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (12 children)

As if Europe or the „Western“ world in general would still have any credibility with the Gaza genocide.

I truly feel sorry for Ukrainians as the support for the resistance was never about actual solidarity or values.

[–] 0x815@feddit.de 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

@bolzolol

As if Europe or the „Western“ world in general would still have any credibility with the Gaza genocide.

I truly feel sorry for Ukrainians as the support for the resistance was never about actual solidarity or values.

Aren't you getting tired of this?

[–] bolzolol@feddit.de -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Ah yeah the typical whataboutism accusation. Whataboutism is certainly a problem when trolls try to derail debates.

In this case though the statement that Europe would lose all credibility if Ukraine loses relies on the premise that there’s any credibility left to begin with. I’m challenging that premise.

It’s blatantly obvious that the support for Ukraine was always just about geopolitics, and never about moral or values. Now, the geopolitical interest seems to have shifted, hence no more support for Ukraine. See e.g. Scholz not even giving any reasons for denying support, except that he says so.

I think all of this is terrible and I want Ukraine to be supported, but our dear Western leaders are morally bankrupt so I’m afraid it may not happen.

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