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TLDR: StartAllBack, ExplorerPatcher and some other projects are being blocked on 24H2.

One more reason to switch to Linux

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[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 22 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

I still can't believe Linux only have 5% of OS market share

[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I can. Do you really think computer savvy people are the majority of computer users?

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

It's painful that this needs to be mentioned, and that people will actively argue that it's not true...

[–] shalva97@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

I can too. A lot of people don't know Linux exists

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

The majority of desktop users are within organizations with people who administer all of the PCs. They use Windows server to do this, which is actually mind boggling, but they do it somehow. It would be easier to do it with Linux, but most admins are stuck with what tools that already have.

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

While that's true but some DE nowadays make it easier for general consumer to install/using Linux as their main os, I think some people even scared of Linux and didn't wanna touch it and that's a shame

[–] T156@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In either case, you still need to install a new OS, which is already a technical hurdle in itself, and know enough command line to fix things when they break/update packages, or to access things that might not have a UI.

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah, maybe someday Windows become so bad that people will do anything to get rid of it, I confess that I'm still using Windows 10 to play most of my games but I will ditch Windows once it reached EOL (I use Open SUSE for web browsing and documents editing and it's been great so far)

[–] EqMinMax@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

There is nothing tech savy in linux, if you use the right distro. Moreover, mostly tech savy people customize their OS and not average users. If an user can install an app for customizing, then linux is no more different.

[–] wetnoodle@sopuli.xyz 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

if you use the right distro

Exactly, a sad amount of people wouldn't be able to install windows if they had to. They definitely won't be finding the right distro then installing.

[–] Fungah@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

You say this.

But its just not true.

It took my of all of a day with Linux mint before she needed to open up a command line and do things.

I love Linux . i would kill for Linux. Have killed for linux. And wil kill again for Linux. What's that, tux? Sudo for person in store; do "$festoon_the_walls_with_their_guts"? If [[ -e $police ]]; then -eval sudo_works_in_real_,life; find / -type "*god" -exec /platonic_root/deicide police surviving_bystanders news_crews: fi; done

You're always looking out for me bud. Sure I'll do it.

[–] haevestorr@lemm.ee -5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You don't really need any skills to use modern Linux. I would argue that it's easier to use than Windows for someone who has basic googling skills. Windows have an annoying habit of getting in the way of the user and making things much harder than they need to be. For example, needing to use the registry editor for basic configuration options.

[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

No regular Joe will ever need to use regedit, you're thinking with yourself as reference, the majority of computer users aren't going to configure shit. They just get a computer with Windows installed and they start using it.

[–] menemen@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

While Mixrosoft produces questionable software, they are really good at ugly marketing strategies.

It is imo literally unbelievable that e.g. the EU is not enforcing an own OS (that the EU and not another country can control) on the EU members administrations and militaries. Microsoft is good with stuff like this.

[–] dai@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

The volumes of cash that Microsoft throw at retailers (custom builders / big box) is astronomical. Worked for a relatively small retailer with some international buying power. EOFY "MDF" from Microsoft was an absurd figure.

Our builders would belt out 3 - 6 machines per day, depending on complexity of the custom build, the pre-built machines were in the 6+ per day range.

Considering the vast majority of those machines were running windows (some sold without an os), from a quick estimate after too many beers we were out of pocket 10% at most of the bulk buy price for licence keys after our "market development funds" came through.

It's fucking crook.

[–] fin@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They are forced to use Windows, like me

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My last two jobs require(d) me to run windows. At one, I spent 95% of my time in a Linux VM so it was more tolerable.

[–] fin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That’s a good option, only if you have a powerful PC. Mine is not enough powerful for WSL to run

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Usually just VirtualBox VM's -- i've never touched WSL except for the original version way back in the 90's I think.

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I can't even use virtual box at work, every time anyone downloads it, Oracle sics their licensing trolls at us, ignoring the fact that it's free for all outside of the extension pack

I'm STILL pissed off that Oracle bought Sun

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Are you guys installing the extension pack? That's when the licensing weenies get to work. My old job ended up blocking oracle.com which was really fun for trying to read java docs. I would have to set up an ssh tunnel to my home server in order to download vbox release.

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 months ago

When i first started there, I did, just out of habit, but when i was approached about it, I removed it without hesitation... Never did download it or install it again, but every time i downloaded the main program, within a day I'd get someone saying Oracle was coming after us again and ultimately we just stopped allowing it altogether because having to deal with Oracle's bullshit just wasn't worth it, I'd rather pay VMware than deal with Oracle's bullshit for a free product that they can't figure out their own license for

Well... Now VMware is owned by Broadcom and is apparently being dismantled from the inside so i may be looking for a third option soon (that isn't HyperV... It works fine but I've always found it hit or miss for Linux, which is like 100% of what I virtualize on my desktop)

[–] locuester@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

in the 90’s

Woah. You’re off by a lot. WSL isn’t even 10 years old.

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I was thinking of the earlier incantation called Windows Services for Unix.

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I hate it when software requires incantations to run

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

I'm leaving that up because its kind of funny how I mangled that.