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[–] OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world 43 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Thats the thing, comedy hasn't stopped. Regular people aren't offended if you make a funny joke about a sensitive topic.

Rob McElhenney from It's always sunny was just talking about this the other day. They make racist jokes, gay jokes, jokes about abortion, mocking the homeless. There's a WHOLE episode done a la The Whiz where the gang wakes up in black people's bodies. You just have to be sure that the joke is told in a way that doesn't lift it's message above being just a joke, and that means the person telling it has to be relatively clear on the side of the joke's subject. You can't punch down, that's never been funny.

South Park and it's always sunny and family guy and those kinds of shows haven't neutered their jokes, so why do people keep saying that you can't make fun of anything anymore? The only people I see that say that are parroting comedians like Seinfeld and Chapelle and THEY'RE STILL SELLING TICKETS, so they're not 'canceled' and their livelihoods aren't affected, so why are they saying they can't make the jokes they continue to sell tickets for?

[–] Infernalism@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

You can’t punch down

That's the key difference between conservative bullying and real comedy. Real comedy doesn't punch down.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I personally disagree, I think comedy punches everywhere, and occasionally those punches land down. Conservative bullying on the other hand, only punches down, over and over.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 months ago

I think Jimmy Carr punches down. I think it's okay to punch down as long as it implicitly understands that it's wrong. I think that's why some Frankie Boyle jokes (who used to write for Jimmy) land as well as they do.

Conservative comedy can sometimes be good? The thing is that it needs to thread a better needle.

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

South Park and it’s always sunny and family guy and those kinds of shows haven’t neutered their jokes, so why do people keep saying that you can’t make fun of anything anymore?

Because they just want to say racist shit and not have anyone call them out on it, which isn't quite the same thing.

[–] OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Yeah I agree with you, that wasn't a legitimate question on my part. It's either they want to say some heinous shit, or, catering to "anti cancel culture" gets them a secured and easily riled up audience.