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[–] SinJab0n@mujico.org 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (34 children)

The ammount of water required to put out a normal car is infinitely less than the amount required to put out a battery fire.

Not to mention the extra weight, nor the retention loss per recharge meaning we need to change batteries every 2-4 years polluting a lot more, we ain't even talking about the energy loss when doing the conversion to electric and then again to mechanical.

The electric transport is the way to go in the future, but firts it needs to have a solid foundation, and nuclear is the way to go at least in this moment. Otherwise we are only making things worse.

Edit for those wondering about the battery degradation: https://www.geotab.com/blog/ev-battery-health/

[–] Dohnakun@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (18 children)

and nuclear is the way to go at least in this moment.

Nuclear is about to go away, looking at the statitics.

[–] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Nuclear is about to go away FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK German government

[–] veedant@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Frankly, I don't mind as long as I can get enough electricity at any time of the day.

[–] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So you don't mind paying 40 cents/kWh?

[–] Dohnakun@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would be if we had nuclear only.

[–] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, there is a push against nuclear and for renewables and prices are going up. Something something ccorrelation causation

[–] Dohnakun@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Might have something to do with Corona and most fossil gas coming from russia, don't you think?

[–] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And shutting down clean and safe nuclear power, yes. Why do you think we were so reliant on Soviet natural gas?

[–] Dohnakun@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aside that nuclear power is neither safe nor clean. Who do you think is the main supplier of Uran? It is... Russia!

[–] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Russia provides our Uranium because we chose them.

And nuclear isn't safe since? https://www.statista.com/statistics/494425/death-rate-worldwide-by-energy-source/

[–] veedant@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd be paying that anyway for renewable power given the geography of my country, where nuclear is impossible (ABSOLUTELY impossible). If someone could cut the natural gas from our energy pie and give us clean electricity as a replacement we'd be grateful, given our limited space and relative lack of renewable resources.

[–] dustojnikhummer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And I'm paying that thanks to the German government who made us reliant on cheap and "clean" Soviet natural gas instead of making our own power with our own resources. But hey, shifting emissions to Siberia is easier!

[–] veedant@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Atomausstieg was plain stupid, agree. But legitimately. I have no idea how my country will survive decarbonisation. We're a tropical island; we have money, but not much else with regard to resources anyway.

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