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[โ€“] GiveMemes@jlai.lu -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't see the problem with teaching 7 year olds firearm safety. You're throwing your credibility out the window by including that.

Beyond that though, it is sad, but it isn't a gun problem. Yes, getting rid of guns would get rid of most shootings. However, it wouldn't deal with the underlying problems causing these incidents, and it wouldn't help the vast majority of violence in schools. Also, most school shootings, contrary to popular belief, are one or two people, not mass shootings. When our schools are a home to bullies, sexually abusive staff, racially segregated districts (yes, in the 21st century), economically segregated districts, republican defunding efforts, a loss of teachers especially during and immediately post-pandemic, and racially based gangs that perform regular violence against each other, it comes as no surprise, at least to me, that this violence is occurring. If it wasn't a gun, it would be another weapon. We need to focus on the actual problems, not the ones that make us sad and grab our attention, especially when disarming the populace gives our already authoritarian police state even more power.

[โ€“] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Re read, and stop setting up straw men. I criticized teaching seven year olds to shoot. Not teaching actual gun safety.

I seperately said it's sad that we have to have the "heroes program" to teach pre schoolers about active shool shooters, because gun nuts don't allow real gun controls or solutions.

https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1848971668

People from other countries are shocked and horrified by everything in this thread.

And the "well if it wasn't a gun it'd be something else" yeah guns aren't necessary to kill but it sure makes it a whole lot easier and faster. I don't think this guy could have killed 60 people in ten minutes with a knife:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting