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[–] Shellbeach@lemmy.world 34 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Voting for Biden is not voting for the man, it's voting for an ideology, for hope, for a future less grim. Vote for Biden.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Honestly that's overselling Biden and their own pitch is you are voting against ending democracy. Biden isn't going to make the future less grim (unless we protest), but Trump would certainly make it worse.

[–] SupahRevs@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He absolutely is making the future less grim. The industry news I read for my work in the energy industry is full of progress in environmental regulation. It's a fight vs Republicans and Biden is really making progress.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago

What progress will you have to make if Biden who has been polling 40/40 or 39/41 loses to Trump? It may be less grim (if he can win) but it is much more likely to be grim if Democrats don't take their heads out of the sand and consider nominating someone actually able to handle a debate against Trump.

[–] multifariace@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Those are the same reasons people use to vote for Trump. I'm around it all the time. People on both sides are voting out of fear of the other side. Reason and reality are no longer relevant in politics. Only fear.

[–] eric5949@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"I wouldn't be affected by project 2025 so there's no reason for me to care"

Just be honest dude.

[–] multifariace@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Again. That was my point! Fear is controlling us.

[–] eric5949@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Buddy you can go read it yourself. You won't, because you erroneously think it won't affect you, but you can.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Okay, but one side uses fear to roll out voting rights while the other takes those same rights away. Fear isn't controlling all of us because it is up to us in how we respond.

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

"roll out voting rights", definitely agree with your other statement about the other party taking voting rights but I haven't seen sources for "rolling out" voting rights from the Dems. They may fight gerrymandering which hurts their election chances but I don't see actual democracy being expedited.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago

And the left uses fear to say the polls are too close for Biden to have such a miserable debate performance to risk democracy... and what do the Trump supporters do? They say... no Biden is your only option against Trump.

[–] Shellbeach@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And are you not afraid? I fucking am

[–] multifariace@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Because they have a very public plan to completely restructure the government to make Trump a dictator and the US a theocracy. This isn't normal. They're openly telling us they're going to do that.

If you're not afraid, you're either trying really hard to not pay attention, or you just hate America and want it to fall.

[–] multifariace@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Of course I'm afraid. Probably more realistically than everyone responding as if I wasn't. I don't see a way to stop America from sinking further into a dark age.

It blows my mind how anti-intellecualism is so strong when we have so much information at our finger tips. The greedy takeover of Reddit is painful. Like a lobotomy. Finding sources and more perspectives was never easier than what had been built on that site. This last year has made it indistinguishable from other forms of media.

We are perpetually getting dumber and more afraid. And before I am questioned again, "we" includes me.

[–] OutsizedWalrus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Okay, what does that have to do with voting?

[–] multifariace@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago

In current politics: Fears=Votes.

That is the American way. If that is not clear, I can elaborate. But I'm pretty sure you can see it in every comment telling you why to vote a certain way.