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Japan declares victory in effort to end government use of floppy disks (japantoday.com)

submitted 4 months ago by manucode@infosec.pub to c/nottheonion@lemmy.world

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[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

US gov isn't even tape free

[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 54 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Tape makes an excellent, dirt cheap, large scale backup solution. You can get a 30 TB tape for 45 bucks.

[–] ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

As long as you test restoring those backups, which is where many entities fail.

[–] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Wish smaller scale tape storage was more viable for home use (homelab scale). Would love to have tapes instead of spinning drives for something like a home media server.

Last time I looked into it I didn’t even know where to start. Is it more feasible now? I’d imagine power consumption would also be better than keeping disks spinning all the time.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Tape is not great for things you actually want to access like media

[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 months ago

Yes, but it's great for your emergency backup copy of media.

[–] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My thought process is that in the case of media I’m not accessing the same files over and over, at least not for most of the files. For a media archive it would make sense, to me at least. I’m not familiar with modern tape storage, I’m sure there’s many good reasons why this isn’t done (yet?).

Would be good for self hosted offsite backups too I’d imagine.

[–] AProfessional@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

You don’t get fast random access. So you have to read the whole tape if it’s near the end.

[–] mint_tamas@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The tape drives I found were really expensive. But as others mentioned, it’s not really suitable for media anyway. Only cold storage backup.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Hell yeah brother

[–] LemoineFairclough@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Linear Tape-Open (LTO) has significant advantages in certain situations, such that you have to make specific design decisions if you don't want people to use it: https://www.chia.net/2018/06/11/the-asic-resistance-of-proof-of-space/ https://chiaforum.com/t/lto-tape-drive-as-a-storage-option/12829/3

I will always remember stumbling upon this video ("HP Protecting your business data (or Disc vs Tape)"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHP_bKJx2xg

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Frick yeah

[–] sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

Amazon and Facebook probably aren't tape free either. Tape is crazy cheap and reliable. It's just really slow.