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[–] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Ey, cheers mate, refreshing to get a composed response!

I'd argue there are more sides than just NATO vs China and friends. India often fucks over both sides because both refuse to acknowledge it and its concerns for example. It saddens me that such counties don't give a shit, but I can't really fault them too much considering we do the same to them. And such rhetoric only serves as fuel for them to mock us.

You're definitely right that we also need military might to protect our values, as a European I'm disgusted by our inactivity and reliance on the US. On the subject of cute counties, I'd argue Finland isn't one of em, I'd also add Sweeden just for military reasons while I'm at it. Both have strong militaries with plenty of reserves/mobilization potential, Finland even has nuclear ready bunkers under every major city. So glad we got em in NATO now, hope the rest of Europe catches up soon.

And not gonna lie, as much as I shit on America, it's largely because I'm also sacred. The US is on a slippery slope due to decades of ignorance and if the US goes to shit it's gonna have far and wide consequences around the globe. I hope the Trump situation will act as a wake up call for us in Europe, and we'll get our shit together, not only to be self sufficient, but hopefully emerge as a genuine ally for peace and freedom that reaches beyond diplomacy. If America falls and Europe doesn't get its shit together, that's good bye for Ukraine and then what? That would set a new standard, a world in which might makes right... No even an attempt at rule of law.

[–] 33550336@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I’d argue there are more sides than just NATO vs China and friends. India often fucks over both sides

No, there are no more sides. India was buying shittons of russian military equipment and stopped to do so since it is even worse shit after the soviet union collapse. India is not a third, autonomous pole in the world geopolitics. Another "two faced" country I can recall is Hungary. I think there is no doubt now that Orban is Putin's cocksucking lapdog.

glad we got em in NATO now, hope the rest of Europe catches up soon.

I think the situation improves a little, I think France underperformed despite Macron's bold words. Now the things may get better. But there is plenty to be done, and much more efforts to be taken, i.e. military spending like during the Cold War.

as much as I shit on America, it’s largely because I’m also sacred. The US is on a slippery slope due to decades of ignorance and if the US

When I am writing it, Britain and France voted, and the results gave me hope. These are very good news for Europe. I hope that Americans will go vote and choose whoever will be Trump's opponent. I am so pissed by the "both sides bad", "I am not voting" fucking tankie Kremlin trolls.

If America falls and Europe doesn’t get its shit together, that’s good bye for Ukraine and then what?

Baltic countries, Poland, other countries from the post-communist block, more... Especially given the resources taken in Ukraine. Europe would be fucked.

Anyway, I wish for you and myself (also European) that the russian authoritarian scums will be stopped together with their lapdogs.