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'There's no way out': Democrats feel powerless as 'elites' fall in line behind Biden
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I get that people want a more progressive candidate. I’ve voted for Bernie multiple times. However, if people wanted to challenge Biden, they should have contested the Primaries. Doing it now is just throwing a wrench in the works. In the current environment, I always wonder if some of this noise is a disinformation campaign from Russia trying to prop up Trump
This isn't about wanting a more progressive candidate, this is about wanting a candidate who's not in cognitive decline. The DNC and administration intentionally kept that information from voters. They even punished Dean Phillips, the one serious Democrat who tried to contest the primaries, by forcing him out of leadership and primarying him.
I want a real progressive, but this point, I will take any corporate centrist they throw at me: Harris, Buttigieg, whatever. But Biden was propped up by the DNC, his diminished facilities are now apparent, and he will lose to Trump. He must be replaced if we're to have any shot of winning in November.
I want a more progressive candidate...
They did. There was a lot of uncommitted voters. Enough of them that they actually have delegates at the convention.
Not only that, they can still challenge Biden at the convention.
Biden's delegates aren't legally forbidden from voting for anyone else. It's pretty fuckin unlikely that it would actually happen, but there was a big deal in 1980 about someone trying to poach another candidate's delegates, so the DNC made a specific rule starting in 1984 that if you can talk someone else's delegates into voting for you instead, fair play, they're your delegates now. As far as I know, it's still legit to do that. Again: It's unlikely bordering on impossible. But it's not illegal to try. Why is no one talking about that when they are openly talking about how vital it is to dethrone him?
Yes, I saw the debate. It was a fuckin disaster. Even so, the theory that Biden is so weak and tottering that he can't speak without drooling and falls over in a strong breeze, but that he holds such an iron grip on power in the DNC that no one can even breathe a word of challenge, and the right move is for him to abandon the ship and trust that no-one-in-particular will rise up to claim the wheel without needing to go through the "fighting Biden for the wheel" process, and definitely be a better candidate once that special exception is made for them, doesn't really hold up to me.
Disclaimer, I still don't know what the right answer is, Biden is old as fuck, I think Jon Stewart would objectively do better in the campaign than he would. But, Biden saying that made a lot more sense than any number of people saying "Let's replace him! But not with me, or anyone in particular."