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When bad management meets bad software, even great hardware is useless

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[–] Marzanna@yiffit.net 5 points 6 months ago

Jolla not mentioned?

[–] Cossty@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I read some articles in the past that before was Nokia bought they worked on some new os. Idk if it was based on android, but I think it might have been Linux. I don't remember. Microsoft, after the purchase, of course flushed it.

[–] nicolauz@feddit.de 4 points 6 months ago

Meltemi. It was supposed to be OS for <100 Euro Linux devices.

The second elop, or how he is known by his friends flop, saw it and saw it was good he killed it. Can't have something cheaper and better then what daddy Microsoft has.

[–] Persi@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

It would depend on whether you think elop was a Microsoft mole al along 😉.

By the time of the Microsoft acquisition, focus had already shifted to Windows phones.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

The Microsoft Windows Phone probably failed because we forgot to give it a real keyboard.
-Balmer

No he didn't really say that, it's a joke on how he laughed about the iPhone not having a real keyboard.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They gave the Kin phones keyboards. Remember those? Probably not.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I admit I didn't until you mentioned them.

[–] fuzzzerd@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Windows phone keyboard was leaps and bounds ahead of iOS and Android. I still miss that keyboard. Swiftkey on android just isn't the same.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I was just about to post that there were Android phones with keyboards too, but I looked it up to be sure, and by god they are clumsy and ugly in comparison.
Personally I love the screen keyboard solution, I find it very elegant and handy. But I admit I need a big screen for it, but I also like the bigger screen in general better anyway.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 3 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


In 2002 Canadian startup Research in Motion launched a proper smartphone with a QWERTY keyboard (its BlackBerry two-way pager had existed since 1999 and already become a hit product) and before long you couldn't attend a meeting without someone wearing one in a naff holster.

When the first telephone call using GSM was officially made in December 1991 by Finland's then-prime minister Harri Holkeri, it was using Nokia kit – even though the Suomi nation hadn't joined the EU yet.

Cheap colorful phones started selling like iced water at a summer rave, and with Nokia providing both the front and back end it was time to make a killing.

In your list of top ten most famous Canadians (in the tech field at least), Stephen Elop must rank highly – if only as the man who decided to destroy Nokia to save it.

To add insult to injury, when Microsoft "upgraded" to Windows Phone 8 it dumped the old WinCE kernel for one based on NT – meaning that apps developed for the earlier operating system needed to be rebuilt.

In 2015 Microsoft declared it was writing off $7.6 billion on the Phone Hardware division as "goodwill and asset impairment charges" – $400 million more than it had originally paid for the Finnish firm.


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[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 3 points 6 months ago

Nokia executive's stubbornness to changes is responsible for its downfall. Can't blame Microsoft entirely on this one.

[–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They were on their way killing their phone line for a long time before that. They shouldn't have stuck with Symbian for so long.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 3 points 6 months ago

MeeGo was quite good! And the latest Symbian wasn't that bad either at the time, though I've heard the source code was all hacky (hence the creation of MeeGo).

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world -2 points 6 months ago
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