Holy shit what a brutal read. If half of it is true (and it has every chance to be, as it is sadly "the usual fare" of male work toxicity and general ego trip), this company is a cesspool. Fuck.
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Linus has come across as a bit of a cunt for years now but always bounces back after every single one of his many controversies.
I'd honestly forgotten all the Madison drama as there's been that much happen since but this was definitely a worthwhile read. Unfortunately I'm sure the Linus brigade will continue to send her unwarranted abuse but I hope she's mentally well enough to realise that what she's said has been heard and appreciated by many people.
Let's not kid ourselves. LTT comes out on the top because their way of operating reflects the community: as long as we get our daily shot of tech/geek stuff, we ignore the rest.
Not mentionning the significant amount of people in the community who are always eager to defend a "bro" against them "woke bitches".
It's hard not to empathize and immediately jump for pitchforks but... does she have any proof of this, or other people that can confirm any of these? From what I've seen all we have is her word.
I mean, remember few years ago when the internet collectively descended on Mick Gordon or Chris Avellone? And then only after years it came to light that they didn't actually do anything wrong and were falsely thrown under the bus by other people or companies? Or that thing with Bayonetta's VA and everyone coming to her aid even though in the end she was the one outright lying about the whole situation? Or the Disco Elysium situation, or probably dozens of other internet dramas fueled by emotion? I think we should collectively wait for something more than one person badmouthing on the internet before we jump to conclusions.
I dunno. I always believe the underdog with a lot to lose.
What does she have to lose?
Listen, I'm not at all saying she's lying, but I do not know her and people do shit for inexplicable reasons all the time.
She is getting a lot of attention, something I'm sure many people would not enjoy, but some of that is definitely being driven to her YT channel, so the whole "nothing to gain" position isn't really true.
Um. Being hired again? She can be completely shut out of any earnings that she needs to survive whereas Linus has a fuck you amount of money. So...
Being hired again?
She's going to be hired against her will? 🤔
This is an important point. We're all pissed at LTT right now so are eager to jump on any story that supports that narrative. I'm not saying I don't believe Madison (what she says pretty much lines up with what I would expect). But before we convict Linus in the court of public opinion, we should allow him to argue in his defense.
I don't really understand how Twitter works, but why aren't these tweets on her profile? Did she delete them? The most recent posts I can see are from 2021.
Did she delete them?
No, Twitter is just broken to all hell.
It seems that now when you visit a profile without being logged in, they show you that profile's most liked Tweets instead of their latest ones. Just tried it with Elon's account and all I see are 2022 tweets.
Here's a direct link to Madison's Tweet thread:
https://twitter.com/suuuoppp/status/1691693740254228741?s=20
(Note this will show up as a single tweet as opposed to a proper thread if you're logged out)
cw: Twitter rant
Twitter is fucking stupid and has a limit on the number of characters you can use in any "tweet".
My suspicion is that this is done intentionally so that users cannot properly explain themselves, which inevitably creates arguments, drama, and "engagement". Mastodon also has this incredibly stupid limitation.
The result is that you end up with people just posting long rants as a series of Tweets (thread), rather than just one, thus bypassing the incredibly stupid limitation, while simultaneously making it super difficult to just read.
This website just gathers all of the tweets from this thread into one post that's easier to read.
LMAO someone stop me if this is a bot repost, but Twitter has the character limit because when Twitter was first founded you could text a phone number to post a tweet
Text messages had a limit of 150 characters or so. That means all the tweets did too.
That's all it is
...and what year was that? And what is the character limit now?
Update : LTT Responded https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/16/23834190/linus-tech-tips-gamersnexus-madison-reeves-controversy
"The company has currently paused all production to improve its review processes, and CEO Terren Tong tells The Verge an outside investigator will be hired to examine the harassment allegations."
Time will be the real proof, but it's already refreshing to see someone besides Linus being referenced as taking corrective action. This is what Terren was hired to do. I wonder if Linus is actually prepared for the decisions he may make in the coming months.
What do we even comment on a story like this. In 2023. There are no words to express the distaste to how she was treated. Found her youtube channel and subscribed. Looks like she is doing cool stuff. Will keep an eye on it.
Linus' fan base drove a little boy to suicide, and the mother subsequently took her own life as well.
Oh boy, are the floodgates open now?
This is reminding me of the collapse of Channel Awesome. If this goes the same way, LTT will continue to exist but not be as big
The pearl clutching in this thread is ridiculous. Just stop watching LTT. I did a year ago.
@Whiskeyomega@kbin.social @Whiskeyomega i’ve always felt something was off about LTT & avoided their content… good to know I can justifiably continue to do so!
@rolf @Whiskeyomega@kbin.social I Havent watched it in years so I didnt know who Madison was but ive known about the misinformation and bad quality in general has been going on for years and thats why I stopped watching.