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[–] JayTreeman@fedia.io 88 points 4 months ago (7 children)

In it's 'war against Hamas' Israel has now bombed 3 countries that has no Hamas

[–] JohnOliver@feddit.dk 43 points 4 months ago (29 children)

The problem with the Israeli attacks i gaza is not the attacks themselves. Israel should have the right to defend themselves on all sides.

The problem is, that in Palestine they are using this as an excuse to kill as many civilians as they can get away with. This is genocide. They are more or less regulating the population of Palestine, and arguing that they in reality are fighting Hamas. The civilians are unfortunate accidents (that more or less keep on happening day in and day out)

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

Iran has been fighting a proxy conflict against Israel through the Houthis, Hezbollah, and Hamas since 1985.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Israel_proxy_conflict

[–] JayTreeman@fedia.io 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How is a state that's largely funded by another state not a proxy for the bigger state? It's not a Israel Iran proxy war. It's a us Iran proxy war

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Iran has been supplying the Houthis, Hezbollah, and Hamas with munitions, intel, and training to support attacks on Israel.

[–] JayTreeman@fedia.io 20 points 4 months ago (15 children)

And the US has been doing the same for Israel

[–] kbotc@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

… Israel will sink our ships if they find them inconvenient.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Perhaps, but they'd do it with missiles that we designed and gave them. -- this is the problem.

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[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 15 points 4 months ago

Possibly because this is retaliation for drone strikes and not part of the "war against Hamas."

[–] homura1650@lemm.ee 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

People have been warning from day 1 about the possibility of a regional escalation.

Apparently you cannot spend months acting in a way that neighboors who already don't like you find morally reprehensible without some of those neighbors inserting themselves into the conflict.

The real question is how long can Iran avoid getting dragged into that. And if Iran gets involved directly, will we be able to contain this to a regional war, or will this small decades old conflict between parties whose total population is only about 12 million become the trigger for world war 3.

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[–] snooggums@midwest.social 6 points 4 months ago

Maybe someone mumbled "they have hummus" and everyone else just rolled with it?

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 41 points 4 months ago (5 children)

FYI: Houthis recruit and have been responsible for the battliefield deaths of thousands of child soldiers.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/16/houthis-continue-to-recruit-child-soldiers-despite-yemen-truce

Neither side is the good guy here.

[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Neither is good, but bombing the child soldiers feels worse.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Once you're responsible for the deaths of thousands of children, I don't think it's a "which is worse" contest.

Because really, you don't get much worse than murdering thousands of children.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Add it to the pile of Israeli war crimes

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Killed by Saudi Arabia with American weapons

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[–] Godric@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

To paraphrase: "The Houthis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everybody else and nobody was going to bomb them."

Maybe don't bomb people, and, failing that, don't be surprised when they bomb you back.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Funny, works with "The Israelis entered..." too.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Funnier still how the headlines on certain publications work. Houthis bomb Israel, Israel bombs them back; headline is "Israel bombs Yemen in Escalation with Houthis".

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Yeah, it should just say "Yemenis die amid bombing".

[–] sunzu@kbin.run 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

hopefully they try to open a third front with Lebanon and seal the deal on the end of their apartheid settler project 🙏

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[–] danniel@feddit.uk 7 points 4 months ago

Is this still called self defence? Surely people can see through this. No?

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Yes, Israel escalated this. When they bomb innocent trade ships, that's fine, that's not escalation that's just tuesday and they are being cute.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Some of these comments are weird.

The Houthis have been keeping up their blockade for 8 months and have already been bombed by US coalition forces multiple times.

I don't think they are at all surprised aside from the fact that it took Israel this long to do the exact same thing.

I keep seeing lots of "find out phase" comments on other threads which doesn't make any sense because they've been effectively at war for years on end, and definitely with Israel for 8 months.

~~The more interesting notion is that Israel also probably bombed some residential areas unlike the US who were trying to destroy missile launch sites to end the blockade.~~

Unsure because it was an oil depot.

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