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There's also this Ukrainian report on the matter but it's in Ukrainian, so I'm sharing the Mastodon post in English.

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[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 135 points 3 months ago (2 children)

From Musk… against Ukraine.

I hope that message is played loud and wide here in the US. Hell, in Europe too for that matter.

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[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 85 points 3 months ago

Um, excuse me… excuse me!

https://sh.itjust.works/c/noncredibledefense

We exist for a reason, stop stealing our stuff.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 48 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Setting aside the question of whether he's actually going to take the thing into a fight, I don't see how you'd get much more out of it than acting as a technical.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_(vehicle)

A technical, known as a non-standard tactical vehicle (NSTV) in United States military parlance, is a light improvised fighting vehicle, typically an open-backed civilian pickup truck or four-wheel drive vehicle modified to mount SALWs and heavy weaponry, such as a machine gun, automatic grenade launcher, anti-aircraft autocannon, rotary cannon, anti-tank weapon, anti-tank gun, ATGM, mortar, multiple rocket launcher, recoilless rifle, or other support weapon (somewhat like a light military gun truck or potentially even a self-propelled gun), etc.

Technicals fill the niche of traditional light cavalry. Generally costing much less than purpose-built combat vehicles, the major asset of technicals is speed and mobility, as well as their ability to strike from unexpected directions with automatic fire and light troop deployment. Further, the reliability of vehicles such as the Toyota Hilux is useful for forces that lack the repair-related infrastructure of a conventional military on land. However, in direct engagements they are no match for heavier vehicles, such as tanks or other armored fighting vehicles, and they are mostly helpless against any air support from a proper military. [citation needed]

The Cybertruck is a light truck. It's got no armor, no relevant sensors. It's not tracked, which probably isn't the end of the world. The only notable thing about it is that runs on electricity, but in a battlefield context, my bet is that it's easier to get ahold of fuel than electricity. I guess you don't have to worry about fuel in a tank catching on fire, but lithium makes for exciting reactions too -- I kind of doubt that the battery cases deal well with being ruptured. Militaries are generally using ICEs, not EVs, today.

I'd say that a Hummvee is a considerably-better-suited vehicle in that category, and nobody is going to make a big deal out of taking a Hummvee into a fight.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

So ....positives:

Its quite fast compared to most other technicals, on an undamaged road.

Its nearly silent.

Air Conditioning.

You can cut vegetables for meal prep with the frunk.

. .. ...

Ok negatives:

Unless they wrap or paint it, it is extremely shiny and highly visible.

Also, it is no longer silent once you start unloading with a rear mounted Kord or PKM.

It is significantly heavier than a similarly sized truck, not great for mud or crossing a structurally dubious bridge.

It can't offroad for shit in actually difficult or broken terrain, we've seen many of these things completely break their axels over curbs or collisions that most modern SUVs would be able to drive away from.

Its functionally totally unarmored.

It will probably explode/go up in flames if shot.

Also, if its electrical systems are sufficiently damaged, it will lock you out, or in.

It may or may not just stop working, or prevent itself from turning on fully if it decides to do a software update and has connectivity issues.

If the doors are damaged or your stupid key fob thing breaks, the door 'handles' are by default flush with the door panel and you cannot actually enter the vehicle.

If the central touch screen is say, shot, or maybe just bumped and cracked by an ammo box... probably you also cannot even get the thing to start.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

Also, once you're close to the front line, where are you going to charge this thing? There's definitely no fast chargers, and if you do find a house with a working 220v outlet you're a sitting duck for the next 8 hours or so.

Ukrainians have been using electric bikes and scooters successfully, but a whole EV is another kettle of fish.

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[–] Rose@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Its main strength is that Ukraine would probably want to have Kadyrov's personal Cybertruck as a trophy, so they'd be careful not to destroy it.

[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

While that might play a very small part on their strategy I don't think anyone in Ukraine thinks twice before shooting it should the situation really need it. It would make a nice trophy, agreed, but I think the mentality is that if it doesn't burn then nice and even if it does the charred remains are still a trophy and a big PR win via social media.

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[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 44 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Are republicans just openly supporting Russia’s invasion of Ukraine now?

[–] EarthShipTechIntern@lemm.ee 41 points 3 months ago

Now? Since quite a while, now. Putin did fund trump's 2016.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 41 points 3 months ago

Can't wait until it gets stuck in 2 cm of mud

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago

Lmao that’ll fix it

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 33 points 3 months ago

Thank goodness we've armed the Ukrainians with our finest puddles and small hills. Just in time for winter too....

[–] aquinteros@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

isn't that arming an enemy of the state ? is that legal?

[–] Shdwdrgn@mander.xyz 13 points 3 months ago

I mean, Musk is so stupid that he probably doesn't even realize he's helping the Ukrainians.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago

A lot of hyperchargers on the front lines I imagine

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That's only because Ukraine is winning this week. A few months ago when Ukraine was losing Musk wanted Ukraine to surrender.

[–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Against Ukraine. This is on brand for Musk.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And if true, wouldn't this be a breach of sanctions? Can't someone lock him up for this?

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I can't wait to see the Ukrainian video of them drone striking this piece of shit lol. Assuming they even bother and it doesn't just die on the side of the road on the way to anywhere.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 25 points 3 months ago

Great. We can just arm Ukraine with some Super Soakers to take care of that real easy.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lol, that’s even more useless than their pop off tanks.

[–] Lon3star@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Panels on that vehicle are quite literally glued on and its off-road capabilities are abysmal... Enjoy getting stuck in tall grass

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That thing will last about a second. Then it'll be smashed by a baseball and explode.

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[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

A Toyota Hilux is more suited for combat than that piece of shit.

[–] MonsterMonster@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

If this is true then it's only a matter of time for the collapse in Tesla sales and any commercial venture linked to Musk.

[–] EarthShipTechIntern@lemm.ee 18 points 3 months ago

Hope it auto-pilots him into a landmine or the battery explodes. Both, preferably

[–] TacticsConsort@yiffit.net 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well. That's, uh. Certainly one way to do a marketing stunt. Giving a free car to a second rate genocidal dictator asskisser.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Assuming that Musk actually had a hand in it and it isn't just Kadyrov playing up a truck he bought second hand to make himself seem more important. Not that Elon isn't shitty, but I'm not sure if Kadyrov is notable enough for the guy to personally send him presents.

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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can we seize Space X and Tesla paid with tax payer's funds? Force him to sale, I don't give a shit what it is. A national resource is in the hands of a extreme far right Putin/Jinping/ Bin Salman puppet. This man has way to much power.

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[–] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Russia is resorting to cyberjunks now? Lmao

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

Elon Musk

Aspiring Military Target

[–] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Cybertruck for the Chechen Cuck

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[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 12 points 3 months ago

Clown buys clown car. No surprise here. lol

[–] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Setting an alert now for "FPV drone takes out cybertruck".

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 9 points 3 months ago

"The drone's explosive didn't go off, but when we rammed the drone into the window the trunk caught on fire."

[–] ngwoo@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Ukraine is training with water guns in preparation.

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 10 points 3 months ago

It is a cut up tin can that rusts.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 months ago (4 children)

How is this not providing aid and succor to our enemies?

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[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 8 points 3 months ago

What was that? Aiding and abetting America's enemies?

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is this better for !shittytechnicals or !noncredibledefense?

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