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[–] resurge@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah, using a 9 year old work laptop as my home server. Then with the surging energy prices last year I decided to switch out that laptop with a raspberry pi 4 as server.

Conclusion: I now have a laptop and a RPI running 24/7 πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

[–] marswarrior@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Conclusion: I now have a laptop and a RPI running 24/7 πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

Sounds like a win to me. lol

[–] TheInsane42@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My RPi4s and 3s will out perform my older laptops, apart from the just retired P50 (gpu nearly died). That one is 6y, the others are 11y old HPs and a 16y 32 bit Xxodd (wierd brand). tje RPis are sufficient for normal server use, the nwew laptop (last gen i9 with 64G mem) can host (nested) kvm clients, so no need for extra hardware. (And still I save them, just in case ;) )

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[–] penguin_knight@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (11 children)

i disaseemble all my laptops so they are just a motherboard, screw them into sheets of MDF, place vertically, and use them as servers.

NAS, pihole, plex, etc

[–] Rain@lm.melonbread.dev 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have any photos of this?
Would love to see how this looks in practice!

[–] AkatsukiLevi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Up! Also would love to see how it looks

[–] lom@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You have a tutorial? That sounds awesome.

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[–] palitu@lemmy.perthchat.org 3 points 1 year ago

Ummm... I need to know more. Photos? This sounds interesting!

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[–] I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I turned my ten year old Toshiba i7 with a cracked LCD into a virtual fish tank after the last fish died.

[–] rockhandle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I salute your creativity haha

[–] Peereboominc@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That is so awesome!

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[–] AcidOctopus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm patiently waiting for someone (anyone) I know to decide to throw out an old laptop.

Gonna bite their hand off for it, install Linux and proceed to fuck around and find out.

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[–] Mugmoor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Do you mean a server with a built-in UPS, monitor, keyboard AND mouse? Hell yeah! My old Samsung Laptop has been running my game servers for quite a while now, and I have an old Asus running PiHole and Headcale. Works great!

[–] RoyalEngineering@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Old laptops can are actually great serversβ€”hear me out:

  • Built in KVM
  • Low power consumption
  • Battery = UPS for power blips
  • SSD (sometimes)
  • Wifi + Ethernet = Redundant NICs
  • Quiet (sometimes)
  • Small form factor
[–] utopianfiat@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The battery is usually long gone by the time it becomes a server though.

Really old laptops have PCMCIA slots too that you can hook into newer interfaces. I used a PCMCIA eSATA card for a laptop NAS!

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The battery is usually long gone by the time it becomes a server though.

Absolutely. I still have my laptop from high school, and it's battery has been long gone. The screen is on its last legs.

Maybe it will be a server one day, but for now it's my DnD laptop. Sucks a bit when somebody bumps the power cord and the battlemap turns off. But it's still limping by.

[–] Kazumara@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, I use the old desktops for that.

Old laptops usually seem to go to other people:

  • My first one I gave one to a girl who's house burned down in my street.
  • The second one went to my ex who is on really hard financial times and the old Macbook she got from another good soul died on her.
  • The third one I traded in with my mom who really wanted a light one, and in exchange she contributed to...
  • My fourth one that had more power for compiling things in my studies. This one I still have and use occasionally.
[–] notafox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] pcgaldo@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (7 children)

My laptop for home use is almost 15 years old. My desktop is almost 11 years old. My work laptop is 8 years old. Here they are talking about more modern and powerful equipment, defining them as obsolete. I don't know, maybe we should start questioning if these consumption dynamics are a bit harmful.

[–] phthalocyanin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

based and sustainability-pilled

[–] heimchen@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

I can even run the latest Stable diffusion models on my 8 year old GPU.

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[–] sv1sjp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I used to use my 10 year old old netbook (intel atom n270 2gb ram - ubuntu server) as a server for Plex, calibre, pihole, ssftp.

Now I am using a Raspberry Pi 4 8GB Ram, as it consumes less electricity. Old laptops are consuming (except HDDs/SSDs) 10-30 watt. Raspberry Pi in indle consumes 2watt and when i am using it at mac power with an external hdd consumes 12watt.

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[–] Thade780@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

My (very) old Vaio from 2013 just had a disk change with an SSD and is now a fantastic domain controller.

[–] lemme_at_it@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

All day long. I ssh into mine & run docker. Works surprisingly well. Better than the $5/month droplet.

[–] cowmouse@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

They're usually very inefficient energetically though

[–] TeoTwawki@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A busted up acer netbook on a shelf in my basement ran a Final Fantasy XI private server for several years till it died and I migrated to something sturdier.

Display was wrecked, keyboard destroyed, trackpad gone.. but a single usb port and a vga port still worked so I was able to install an OS. then I removed those and only ever remoted into it. I actually removed the busted display and keyboard to it'd vent heat better - it ran pretty hot and the ventilation on that thing was designed poorly. The reason the keyboard died was actually heat related, melting its underside and warping it.

FFXI Private servers will run on a 2 decades old potato, so this worked until it finally died despite some seriously pathetic specs.

(1gb ram upgraded to 2gb, 1 ghz intel atom single core cpu, yes really)

At work we had lots of old laptops, poor battery life, small hard drives, etc. I cleaned them up and installed pfsense on them and gave them to colleagues as home firewall/kid web filters. Others we popped xp on them and set up mame / emulator to give to their kids.

[–] hurricane@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Old laptops have little resell value. They work well as low powered hobby servers though.

[–] firewyre@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Sure, I even have an old Samsung Galaxy S7 running sshd right now :)

[–] Dax87@forum.stellarcastle.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

when I first explored the world of kubernetes my nodes consisted of discarded laptops I've dubbed "half-tops," or truly "headless" servers. it was a beautiful abomination.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Wait you can do that???? I have one right now!!!

[–] phx@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The big issue with laptops tends to be cooling, but something with a decent CPU and enough RAM can still do a good job since in many cases you're not tapping the graphics chip/core, which is often the biggest source of heat.

That said, for small personal services even an 8GB Pi4 can do a pretty decent job.

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[–] BaldDude@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

My first NAS was an old IBM X40 and two USB3-Disks.

those where the days :)

[–] ChillPill@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I'm actually hosting things on my 2 year old gaming pc (which is no longer used for gaming) and using my 8 year old laptop daily... How the turn tables.

[–] obesity52@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Yup! Usually running some local/dev docker containers for work, so I don't slow down the laptop I'm actually using with background stuff. They get hot, and I keep them in places where they get hot, but they haven't died from the heat yet.

[–] gerowen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

My home server started as an HP Pavilion P6803w desktop PC. A decade later it has a better case, better power supply, more RAM, better CPU, more drives and runs Debian instead of Windows 7. The only original part is the motherboard.

[–] Naratetama@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah until it stopped working. The heat is the problem. It lasts for like 6 months of 24/7 usage.

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[–] Elegast@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

yep!

I used to run an old Dell R610. Used a decent amount of power.

Switched to an old 4th gen quadcore i7 laptop.

Been running great, uses less power, has a built in display and keyboard.

Linux base, Docker Env for most everything else.

And a built in ups if your battery is still good

[–] tristan@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

I use old Lenovo tiny units... Can pick them up cheap when businesses upgrade, chuck in a bit extra ram, a new SSD, add it to my proxmox cluster... Then look for excuses to use it so I can justify having yet another one

[–] ram@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

I have one that runs my bookwyrm, owncast, calibreweb, and matrix (WIP) instances.

Gotta love self-hosting federation c:

[–] Tarte@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Many years ago I used old desktop PCs. But nowadays VPS have become so cheap that it's just not worth the hastle, in my opinion.

when I first explored the world of kubernetes my nodes consisted of discarded "half-tops," or truly "headless" servers. it was a beautiful abomination.

when I first explored the world of kubernetes my nodes consisted of discarded laptops I've dubbed "half-tops," or truly "headless" servers. it was a beautiful abomination.

[–] AnActualFossil@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a test machine, yes. As a production machine... Meh.

Little memory, slow and small disk...

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