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    [–] yistdaj@pawb.social 3 points 1 day ago

    Anecdotal, but I have had bad experiences using Ubuntu. I know it's not a bad distro, and that it contributes a lot (especially historically), but it's the other distros that take their contributions and add to it that I find worth using or recommending, or sometimes an unrelated distro. It's the sort of thing I might give money to, but I'll never want to use directly.

    I think this is what people mean when they say it's bad - that distros that take what Ubuntu made and add their own touch seem more user friendly.

    [–] eco_game@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    I was pretty neutral towards Ubuntu, up until an automatic system update removed my deb Firefox and replaced it with the snap version, even though I specifically set the apt repo to a higher priority.

    The entire reason I left Windows is because I don't want (for example) Edge shoved down my throat after every update, and yet Ubuntu has gone and done the exact same thing with snaps.

    After literal hours of fighting, the only solution I found was to fully disable automatic updates. With Pop OS I have all the benefits of Ubuntu, but I also get a company (System76) that does cool stuff and doesn't try shoving snaps down my throat.

    [–] accideath@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

    Yea, that’s pretty much the reason I always go for mint, when I need something that just works

    [–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago

    Ooohh yeah fuck that. That..doesn't sit well with me at all

    [–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 6 days ago

    I learned better in 2012 when they tried to put an Amazon search bar in their start menu, the same thing people are complaining about with windows today.

    If I wanted to use corposhit I would have stayed with windows.

    [–] starbrite@lemmy.zip 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

    I'd love ubuntu, my only real problem with it is it's owned by a company and not community backed

    [–] avieshek@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (7 children)

    Try Pop!_OS if you love Ubuntu

    [–] lengau@midwest.social 3 points 5 days ago

    Isn't Pop OS just System76's spin on Ubuntu?

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    [–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 10 points 6 days ago (4 children)

    Canonical wants to be Microsoft so goddamn bad they can taste it

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    [–] pewpew@feddit.it 10 points 6 days ago

    Kubuntu is boring because it just works

    [–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    Other than snaps, gnome, and the fucking painful default taskbar it's pretty good yeah. It just works™️.

    [–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

    I hate GNOME lol, I wouldn't be using Linux today if I had stuck with Ubuntu. If you like it, that's cool. I respect it, I just can't stand using it myself.

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    [–] idefix@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago (4 children)

    I'm a very happy Manjaro user and have been for more than 5 years.

    Let's just say it doesn't seem to be a popular opinion around here!

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    [–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

    it uses snap (less packages and security than flatpak), app.armor (less secure than Selinux), has a history of anti-privacy integrations (like sending user keystrokes to amazon), still collects some user data. Tumbleweed is better. Great kde implementation, strong security, a lot of cutting-edge software, stability, beginner-friendly

    [–] tsugu@slrpnk.net 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

    False (except for less packages, that's true), false, the amazon incident was a honest mistake and only applied to the search bar in unity (even more specifically the amazon lense), and no data is being collected unless you enable it during the install. https://youtu.be/rdPt8WB1lZw

    Also are you serious? A rolling release distro with automated package builds being more secure? Last time I checked Tumbleweed got affected by the XZ exploit.

    [–] agelord@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (3 children)

    sending user keystrokes to Amazon

    That's a very serious allegation to make without citing any source.

    Still collects some user data

    Someone has already pointed out, no data is collected unless the user opts in. But, my question is what's wrong with collecting anonyomized telemetry about most used hardware and most used/unused software features? It helps developers make better decisions.

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    [–] TheGingerNut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

    If you're going to shill a corpo distro, at least shill a decent one like fedora.

    [–] tsugu@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

    Lmao. As if corporate operating systems were bad. What makes RedHat that much better tho? I want to know. From what I've seen they are both bringing a lot of value to the FOSS space.

    [–] TheGingerNut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
    • Fedora makes very minimal changes to downstream. The gnome experience on fedora is the experience the devs intended, for better or worse.
    • It often experiments with new technologies. It was the first to ship pulseaudio out of box. And then again for pipewire. And if it wasn't the first to install wayland by default, it probably was the first to stop shipping XOrg out of box.
    • It doesn't install snaps instead of native packages when you run rpm install
    • It's also Linus Torvald's distro of choice if that's worth anything
    [–] tsugu@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 days ago

    • In my humble opinion, the stock experience on Gnome sucks. No desktop icons, no dock, no minimize maximize buttons, no app indicators. I only use Gnome because of the changes Ubuntu made to it, which can be replicated on other distros with a script.

    • That's valid. Ubuntu has shipped with wayland by default since some time ago but wasn't the first one. They don't seem to adopt the latest technology as fast. Which I like. Even the new LTS still gives you the option to use X.org in GDM.

    • Also true. If you don't like Snaps and aren't comfortable with more and more packages being replaced by them, Ubuntu isn't the distro to use. I don't mind the metapackages installing snaps instead at all honestly. The terminal clearly says it's installing a snap. And from my experience they work great. I was recently using wsl and needed yt-dlp. I went for the snap right away and it worked great.

    In fact the only broken snaps I have encountered so far are OBS and curl (which can't access root directories, making it useless for the script I needed)

    [–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 8 points 6 days ago (4 children)

    Mfw I switch from windows to Ubuntu and I start seeing bad stuff about it

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