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Like if they die with braces, a metal retainer, earrings, a gold tooth, a pacemaker, et cetera.

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[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 99 points 1 year ago (13 children)

The metal doesn't change. It's still there since it doesn't rely on the host living for existence.

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[–] Lober@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

By this point, Phase II will initiate as the metal bits reorganize themselves into a lining along your spine. They will take over control of your corpse for the following months, synthetically reanimating you. Nothing can stop your flesh from discolouring and rotting slowly, however. Eventually, the metal ennards will absolve themselves of your flesh vessel as it no longer suits their purposes, and control is returned to you once more; although your skin may by this point have discoloured into a shade of purple.

[–] 13esq@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

The spirit of comments in this community ought to be helpful to OP.

Your comment is absolutely hilarious but OP didn't come here for a laugh.

[–] Harpsist@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not stupid answer :

After cremation - all metal artifacts are given back to the family should they want them.

I hope my kids take the titanium from my spine.

[–] BloodSlut@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they better! that shit ain't cheap

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Titanium scrap value is pretty low. It takes a lot of energy to recycle it so new titanium is typically used

[–] pg_sax_i_frage@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

if they do end up keeping it, there are artists metalworker, that will agree to turn things like that into custom art and things, if requested. edit:link to one: https://www.titanium-implant-jewelry.com/titanium-implant-jewelry-designs.html

There one in the netherland , I think it is, that offers the service.(they also accept and work with meral that was removed when yiu were still alive, through surgery for example). There seem to be some beautiful examples.

... So, that might be of intrest of intrsst, when writing a will, and to whomever you end up passing that metal to, as a n option, and anlther resin to hold onto those metallic artefacts and keepsakes.

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[–] TheYear2525@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Before the human begins to decompose, the essence of the pacemaker leaves its plastic housing (the “accidental properties” of the device) and goes to a realm outside of space and time to forever keep the pace of the Great Heart for which it was ultimately created. The human, meanwhile, is eaten by worms.

[–] Izzgo@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

That's a delightful answer. My wife, who got a pacemaker this past spring, laughed out loud. Thank you!

[–] AlysonFaithGames@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So a pacemaker will keep going even if the person no longer has brain activity. So a strong magnet is swiped over the chest to turn it off. Not sure what they do with it after that, though

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 15 points 1 year ago

It's this kind of irresponsibility that leads to a zombie apocalypse.

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I believe they have to remove it before burying/cremating them

[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My grandfather died with a bullet in his foot that had been there for about 40 years. He was cremated and there was nothing left of the bullet.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In cremation, the metal is picked up either by hand or magnets and recycled. This is because the bones need to be grinded into "ashes" and they can't do that with metal in it.

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lead melts at such a low temperature that it will vaporize long before the body is reduced to ash.

[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I didn't believe you. So I looked it up. I had no idea how hot cremation was. What a waste of energy.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I learned this listening to true crime podcasts. Killers often try to burn bodies but it doesn't work because you need an actual furnace to reduce a body down to ash.

[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

There's an episode of Nathan For You where he tries to test if a pizza oven will cremate a body but he gave up after a few hours lol

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It can be seen that way. Neil deGrasse Tyson agrees with you. OTOH, it’s a way to conserve cemetery space and reduce the environmental impact of graveyards.

[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, but cremation isn't the only other alternative.

[–] BallsInTheShredder@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Blast my body out into the ocean and let the fish eat me

Or, I like the idea of becoming a tree, where they put you in a bag beneath a tree and plant it so the roots will absorb.. whatever is left that they possibly can, I think that's the coolest (imo) way to go and would like to somehow become a tree.. don't want to be reincarnated as an animal, nature is brutal.

Cat maybe...

[–] pg_sax_i_frage@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

*... I think that’s the coolest (imo) way to go and would like to somehow become a tree… "

trees. are. cool.( literally a and metaphorically.). Having your posymoryem body, turned into a tree, is a relly cool option, in my opinion. Good thing is that a it's pretty widely avalable and doable too, in many places. 💀🌱 🌳 🌳🌲🌳🌲🌲🌱

Heres some resources that might be helpful with planning for that tree, aka green or natural, burial, ahead of time (and ensuring that thise wishes are carried out later) , if you haven't allready: https://www.orderofthegooddeath.com/resources/green-burial/ and https://www.greenburialcouncil.org/interactive-maps.html

and to metión green burials in another jurisdiction, , http://www.naturaldeath.org.uk/index.php?page=find-a-natural-burial-site

Hopefully some of that may be helpful, or intresting. green. burials. subject.

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Thanks for sharing a branch from your knowledge tree!

That was a (bad) pun, tr-hee hee!

But really, I can't wait to become a tree so I can throw apples at tin people.

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[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

That's what we thought, but when we asked to keep the bullet we were told it was reduced to ash with everything else.

Not a full answer, but some interesting info about metals and cremation https://collier-law.com/blog/cremation-what-happens-to-the-metals-in-your-body/

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Where I live, removeable items like braces, jewellery, et cetera are considered 'personal effects' and will be handed over to next of kin when they claim the body for funeral arrangements. Integral things like fillings, artificial joints, etc. are generally left inside. There are cases where they have to be removed or will be left behind (eg. cremation), but they're still considered human remains and have to be disposed of properly.

There are also cases where things can't be cremated or left in the body. I'm thinking specifically about pacemakers powered by radioactive isotopes. Medical authorities will take charge of those.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

What can corrode will corrode.

Gold or the peacemaker will not. They will only ever be destroyed / dissolved / ... in geological timescales. So when that part of the crust is pushed under another one. Or it is erroded away in a river. Or hot, geothermal water dissolves it. Etc.

Otherwise it will stay put and not change.

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Humans from Scadrial who die with enough metal in them may become ghosts

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[–] deadbeef79000 3 points 1 year ago

It was the day my grandmother exploded.

[–] rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not reallly and answer, but there is a Stephen King short story and movie where a plane goes thru a time warp, and only the people who are asleep survive. The other people are gone entirely, except for the metal things they were wearing or had in them.

It's a good one!

[–] favrion@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm sorry, but 763 pages is epic territory.

[–] rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Indeed it is! I apologize for leaving this out, it is just the first of the four short stories; The Langoliers. Much shorter!

[–] Apeman42@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That book is 4 unrelated novellas in one volume, but they're referring only to The Langoliers. Assuming similar lengths for each one, we're really only talking a bit under 200 pages.

[–] favrion@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe that anything above 50-60 pages is no longer a short story.

[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

How many words on the page though? I bet I could squeeze it down to 50 pages with the right font.

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