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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I always want to pronounce the American versions of these words phonetically when I see them.

And what the heck is going on with the US pronunciation of “buoy”? None of those syllables are in that word.

[–] Unanimous_anonymous@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Buo-y

Apparently we have the Dutch to blame for that one, as the verb form is apparently descended from Spanish.

[–] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I still don't understand the English insistence on borrowing words from other languages, yet refusal to standardize spelling into ways that actually make sense within the language.

So I still blame English for being silly with their transliteration.

Blame the great vowel shift.

But also, English spelling can't standardize because English pronunciation isn't standard. West Coast vs Midwest vs South vs East Coast have vastly different accents. Any spelling reform that makes English phonetic for one would be wrong for the others.

And it keeps changing! People keep moving and interacting with other languages, adding and dropping words and accents over time.

[–] UnverifiedAPK@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Blame the French actually, they invaded and screwed everything up beyond repair.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Funny thing about those "French" people.

William the Bastard of Normandy was the grandson of a fellow named Rollo the Viking.

Rollo had conquered the French northern coast and wrecked so much shit the French king just offered to make him a vassal, and give him more land in the process, if he protected the land he'd taken from other Viking raiders. This area would develop a hybrid culture from the mixing of the Germanic invaders and French population.

English, already a bastardized Germanic language, combined from the spoken languages of Germanic invaders who would come to be known as Anglo-Saxons and the native population, got further hybridized by a French Viking who actually spoke a French-Germanic dialect known as Norman.

Tl;Dr

Sea Germans hate linguistic purity, and English's problems are all their fault.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

ʤəst stɑːt ˈjuːzɪŋ aɪ-piː-eɪ

[–] explodicle@local106.com 10 points 1 year ago

Do it backwards, pronounce the British versions

  • Cull our
  • Hume our
  • Flave our
[–] kamen@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Simplified English vs Traditional English

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

It's not even that. At the time they split, English wasn't as standardized. You can see it looking back in the Lewis and Clark expedition journals written by Meriwether Lewis. He doesn't even have consistency in his own writing, and he was no country bumpkin.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I mean we already got rid of T.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

You mean we the Bri'ish?

[–] Bene7rddso@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I see what you did there

[–] Wildf1re@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

The good ol' glottal stop.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Check the Declaration of Independence. You'll find the 'u'. Noah Webster was a dick.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

The Declaration was pre standard. It sure was a political decision to land on another standard than the Bri*ish

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don't get US spelling of "meter" for the metric system they don't even use. My car dashboard is two meters wide. Speedometer and tachometer. It's probably about half a metre wide.

I dunno what a kilometer would be. A device that can measure anything in thousands of something; weight, volume, speed, etc.

"The scale says you weigh 0.07 metric tonnes."

"Oh my god, I'm so fat."

"No, that's only 70kg, it's this stupid kilometer. Makes everything seem bigger than it is."

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

*opens a german dictionary*
*it says „Meter“*
*shrugs*

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Now that you have it open, could you find a funny compound noun or two? I love those!

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm German, I don't need a dictionary for that. We make them up on the fly. For example, Autowaschanlagenführer or Türöffnungsmechanismuswartung

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I remember a little German from it being mandatory in school here in Denmark where we also like compound nouns so imma give it a shot:

"Car wash hose boss" and "door opening mechanism maintenance"?

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"door opening mechanism maintenance"

Yes

"Car wash hose boss"

Almost. „Car wash operator“ it is.

[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I worked in a car wash I would demand to be called a hose boss

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Same tbh 😂

[–] rob64@startrek.website 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How about Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzung? That's my personal favorite, though it lacks umlauts.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm guessing that means speed limit? Nice 😂

[–] rob64@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay I'm curious. With Danish being a Germanic language, how much are you benefiting from cognates and the like when making your guesses?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some. Danish isn't as closely related to German as it is to Norwegian or Swedish, but there are a lot of similarities such as similar words. Danmark is mostly an even weirder than Dutch combination of German and English 😁

[–] rob64@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Weirder than Dutch? I do not believe this.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I know it's a tall order but I'm pretty sure it's true. Danish is a really weird language 😄

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I dunno what a kilometer would be. A device that can measure anything in thousands of something; weight, volume, speed, etc

It's the opposite. A kilometer is a thousand meters, a kilowatt is a thousand watts and a kilogram is a shitload of cocaine.

[–] Nepenthe@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because homonyms are the worst part of any language and Noah Webster agrees with me.

for the metric system they don’t even use.

British people will fund pirates to steal our measuring weights, only to convert themselves 200 years later and then act like the US doesn't have a single STEM field. And then drive by the mile for a pint of milk.

[–] UnverifiedAPK@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well you have me- from proto-european which means to measure.

Then you have metrical (metricus/metrikos from Latin/Greek) that means to measure rhythm in poetry.

Mētrum/Metron again from Latin/Greek meaning "measure, length, size, limit, proportion"

Then "metre" which is originally a unit of length. Then you have a "metre stick" which is a stick used to measure a metre. You can blame the French for basically calling it a "measurement stick" but it refers to a very specific measurement.

Then you have the -or suffix in Latin which means "to have to do with" or "to pertain to". Then that turns in to -re and -er in Old English.

And like everything else - Brittan used both for centuries before deciding one was "right" and everyone else is at fault for the other way (just like how "Soccer" is a British term). Famously Shakespeare used both -re and -er.

Lastly, the US uses the metric system for its professions. It's layman's terms that don't use metric.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I think you need to rework that one bud.