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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the proper term for these are anti-materiel rifle. Made for stopping vehicles.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

...it says that in the title

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The title was edited between my post & yours I guess.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Fair enough I didn't notice that

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 43 points 1 year ago

I like the plan, and it looks good, but I just feel that dual wielding them may not work.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Are those massive silencers on the end or something else?

Never seen a rifle that large before.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Could also be massive muzzle brakes. That rifle must kick like a horse on five different kinds of steroids.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A muzzle brake is not a closed cylinder. There would also be no reason to make it that long.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

yeah, I'm European, I don't know shit about guns

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[–] CrowAirbrush@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Since we're all going off what is visible and nothing more: the outer bits seem to be fabric, maybe those are dirt covers?

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

Suppressors tend to get very hot very quickly. This produces a mirage effect when looking through the scope. Wraps made of high temperature materials help mitigate that and also allow the shooter to remove the suppressor without having to wait until it cools down.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are suppressors (a.k.a. silencers). They work just like your car's muffler and both were invented by the same guy: the grandson of the inventor of the Maxim machine gun.

It will certainly not make these monster guns movie-quiet but it reduces their massive sound and flash signature making it harder to locate where they were shot from.

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[–] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Flash suppressors. Snipers are very high-value targets.

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[–] Hopfgeist@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago

Certainly looks that way. As if it wasn't big enough already. In most pictures I have seen they have only muzzle brakes, but in some they clearly have suppressors. A useful side-effect may be to reduce the visible muzzle fire for night operation.

[–] dill@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago

Flash hiders maybe? Idk

[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] alehc@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] kboy101222@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Silencer" is the older and frankly BS term. Silencers don't silence anything outside of video games and movies. They more "suppress" the noise and muffle it a bit.

Basically it's the difference of firing it outside and having your ears ring forever or just for a long time

[–] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not a BS term it is the patented term used by Percy Maxim when he invented it.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US916885

[–] kboy101222@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Fair enough, but it when most people hear the name, they expect what they see in media and not what it is in real life

[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

They make nothing silent, it's a false term

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[–] Shaolinraiden@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] tal@lemmy.today 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

weight — 6.9 kg

That's quite a suppressor.

Compare to an M4 carbine, the current US issue rifle (not a suppressor on an M4, but the whole weapon):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_carbine

6.43 lb (2.92 kg) empty[4]

7.75 lb (3.52 kg) with 30 rounds and sling

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[–] Jackiedoodle@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think this is how you get Americans back interested in helping Ukraine. Girl with ridiculously big guns.

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[–] SomeGuyNamedPaul@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago

Those things conveniently double as a flag pole at a rural Ford dealership.

[–] DrownedRats@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

For when you need to kill a whole company standing in a line

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

That thing looks like it can cause some serious damage, even to things that are relatively well hardened.

Like, what would happen if a sniper fired that gun into the barrel of a T-80 that had an HE shell loaded?

[–] Fatmaninalilcoat@lemmy.one 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't have to hit the barrels they usually aim for weak spots hoping for penetration then the round bounces around inside taking everyone out.

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Anti-material rifles were initially designed to take out tanks. However all modern tanks have thick enough armor to deflect its bullets.

Now APC's, trucks, vans, and most engines and electronics are destroyed by these rounds. Hence the anti-material label now.

[–] Treczoks@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Given some of the antique tanks the Russians pulled out of the moth ball heap, it might still be an anti-tank-weapon occasionally ...

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[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It would be hard to get the angle just right to get the bullet all the way down the barrel without it impacting the sides of the barrel

[–] Hopfgeist@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Bullets are deflected along surprisingly sharp bends in a barrel (or any other pipe), so it would be sufficient to hit the tank gun muzzle roughly from the front, and it would probably hit a loaded projectile.

[–] Treczoks@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Technically, it would be sufficient of they lodge a bullet into the barrel. As soon as the tank fires, the bullet will wedge between the shell and the barrel, destroying - at least - the barrel.

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Kaboom, I believe.

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[–] Muscle_Meteor@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I want one.

[–] Killing_Spark@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Alucard in the background police girl!

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[–] StillNotAHero@artemis.camp 10 points 1 year ago

Those would be overkill if you went blue whale hunting. Yikes haha

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

I always wanted to shoot the Halo sniper rifle

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