This could have been prevented if there was a good toddler with a gun.
this post was submitted on 20 Nov 2023
319 points (98.2% liked)
News
23361 readers
3300 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
The toddlers need gun training. If every toddler had a gun, stuff like this wouldn't happen.
The solution is obviously to try toddlers as adults.
Another opportunity to talk to your toddler about good trigger discipline.
load more comments
(5 replies)
Or if we just had mental health programs for toddlers, we wouldn't have any issues with giving toddlers guns!
Another responsible gun owner!
Sad thing is is that there are probably many responsible gun owners, but its the jackasses that get publicized and drawn into the public eye.
Though, that's how it should be. It just takes one reckless owner to ruin several people's lives. That's an incredibly low margin of error, and people should talk about it.
There are, mostly in fact. For some rough math, there are 333,287,557 people in the US, about 50% of which own guns for a rough 166,643,778.5 gun owners. There are 60,000 yearly gun deaths including suicides, accidents, and intentional firearm homicides, for a total of 0.036004944523026% of gun owners likely to be irresponsible leading to death in any given year.
Couple notes, this doesn't include illegally owned guns/gun owners in the number (166,643,778.5) of gun owners, because we can't have that number by the nature of it. Most gun crime excluding suicide comes from them though, and so the 60,000 does include them. This also doesn't include people only injured or non injurious irresponsibility or negligent discharge, as often this goes unreported and so far as I can find isn't tracked well likely due to difficulty. That surely does happen as well, like the idiots filming themselves pointing it at the camera (and their own stupid hand). But these figures can at least paint a picture that somewhere around .036% of gun owners/yr are in the "irresponsible" camp, +/- .002% for margin of error.
I do agree, it should be talked about, we can learn from others' mistakes and lessen the frequency. We should also talk about it when people use them correctly in self defense, or training, IDPA, etc, because that is a lot more frequent and we can learn from good examples as well.
load more comments
(1 replies)
load more comments
(9 replies)
Needs to be changed to negligent discharge.
There are no accidents, just negligence.
Unless there is hardware failure, but that's a different story
Sorry... you think letting a toddler get ahold of your loaded gun isn't child endangerment?
...well regulated...
Since when did USA become so anti freedom?
The toddler is clearly part of a militia, to prevent government oppression.
So he has every right to carry and fire whatever weapon in whichever place and direction he chooses.
load more comments
(10 replies)
that the 2-year-old boy took her Taurus 9mm firearm from her purse
Right, so the safety was off then, because there's no way that a two-year-old could release the safety on their own. The movies make it look like you just flick it with your finger but seriously that thing does not move without a reasonable around a force.
A Taurus 9mm likely has a trigger pull between 5 and 9 pounds and kiddo did that...
https://www.guns.com/news/reviews/taurus-g2c-best-seller
Of course mom could have modified it to reduce the trigger pull too...
As a victim of a toddler pinch I have no doubt they can pull a trigger.
Many modern pistols don’t have safeties. Either way it shouldn’t have been loose in the purse and not in a holster.
load more comments
(2 replies)
load more comments
(2 replies)
ohio, the florida of the northeast.
As an Ohioan, I've been calling it "Cold Florida" for years.
load more comments
(1 replies)
Of course it was in Waverly. That Walmart is always full of insane people who shouldn't have weapons, but you know they do. Used to pass through on my way to my hometown and refused to stop there after a few incidents with good old boys because I'm a gay dude who had very long hair back then.
I'm not sure any of those things are unique to that particular Walmart.
I live on the other side of the country and this has been my experience with every Walmart I've ever visited.
load more comments
(1 replies)
I understand, but you've described greater than half of all Walmarts.
load more comments
(1 replies)
This sounds about right for a Taurus owner.
Imagine being able to narrow it down that much when the rest of us go "That sounds right for an American" 🙄
Not a gun person. Is that the Karen gun or something?
Taurus, and this model in particular, is known as a cheap piece of shit probably purchased and carried by someone lacking intellect and sophistication... You know, the type who would have the thing sloshing around unattended in a purse, with no holster.
load more comments
(1 replies)
That boar population is outta control, huh?
"Accidentally."
It's a good thing that Toddler had a gun! Imagine if a gunman had decided to shoot up that Wal Mart! The Toddler could Protect itself!
view more: next ›