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[–] Veedem@lemmy.world 154 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Dallas County Sheriff Adam Infante said that school had not yet started when the shooting began.

“Luckily, so there were very few students and faculty in the building, which I think contributed to a good outcome in that sense,” he said at a news briefing.

Maybe it’s a bad selected quote but using the phrase “good outcome” because only 3 people were shot in a school is insane, to me.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 95 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

This one won't even make the cut as a mass shooting because not enough people were injured.

Way to go America.

Update: five injured, one killed. It counts as a mass shooting now.

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Which is why we need to track school shootings in it's own category.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Then people will complain that an accidental discharge in the school parking lot gets lumped in with this, or that mass shootings at schools get double counted because they're mass shootings and school shootings, or some other nonsense to avoid admitting that there's a problem.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I really don't understand their "gang killings don't count as mass killings" argument. Like somehow those are different because gangs?

[–] CMDR_Horn@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The consensus is that people don’t care about gang members when it’s inter-gang violence. Aside from the obvious, the biggest issue with that stance is that more often than not it’s some 6 yr old bystander who’s shot through the wall of their house. Disgusting.

*edit fixed autocorrect

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I feel like gang shootings would be a little more adversarial. Basically two groups with animosity towards the other coming to a head and the aggressor could be from either side. School shootings and other mass shootings are more vengeful and one sided.

That's my take at least. Not that the loss of life isn't tragic all the same.

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 months ago

Mission accomplished!

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Killed you mean, you could have 400 injured, it's not a mass shooting if there is less than four death.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Four deaths would make it a mass killing. People being hit with bullets fired from a gun is a shooting even if they don't die.

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[–] CodeName@infosec.pub 69 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Nunn, a Republican who represents Iowa’s 3rd Congressional District, added that he will continue to monitor the situation and that the "school is now secure."

"We will not rest until there is full accountability for this heinous act of violence," he said.

Ohh, he's monitoring the situation. He won't do anything to diminish the number of murder weapons that teenagers can get their hands on so they can vent their frustrations via bullets, but he's keeping an eye on things. Great job. You want accountability? Take a look at yourself.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ohh, he's monitoring the situation.

Can we get a gif from the alien movie where the lieutenant is like, "I'm going in", and the marine is like, " I feel safer already "

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

But it falls, just the same. What good is seeing it fall?

-The Mysterious Stranger

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 60 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I wonder when we are going to have an awkward moment when two school shooters show up at the same time. "Oh you are also here to murder the 6 year olds during nap time?"

[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"nah I'm here for the 10 year olds, they run faster and make for better sport, anyway happy hunting!"

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago

Police: "Don't worry, we'll wait until y'all are done in there. Our turn's next, though!"

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

"awkward. One of us is going to have to change dates"

[–] qwertyWarlord@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago

Totally unpreventable. We've tried nothing and we're out of ideas. Investigators looking at motives (like it matters). Suspect had a troubled past, legally bought weapons. #[insert city name] strong. Thoughts and prayers. Like and subscribe. See you at the next one.

[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If only there were good students with guns this could have been prevented

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If only the killer didn't want to kill people.

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[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just the unfortunate cost of securing people's right to commit mass murder

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Humans are temperamental and angry by nature. So, combine that with guns (or almost any other inanimate object) and you have a recipe for total disaster. People use cars while high and kill people, they use bats and knives and other things as weapons. So - let's give them a weapon designed specifically to kill (like guns) and surprise surprise, they go around killing people. Welcome to human nature 101.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

When I get high I watch cartoons, sit on my couch, and eat peanut butter. The most damage I am doing to the world is my waistline.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 10 months ago (2 children)

pointing out the problem with gun violence in america is anti semitic - conservatives, probably

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[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 25 points 10 months ago

You guys need some new traditions over there.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Cut the year some slack. Today was the first day of school. It's hard to have a school shooting when school's out.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So what you're saying is it only took less than a day.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 11 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Correct. In fact, it seems that the casually numbers are low because shooter was early.

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[–] WhyYesZoidberg@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I wonder when american mass shootings will stop being front page news. Treated more like a car crash or something. minor local news. The US as a country has obviously decided that this is acceptable and i assume it should be treated as such.

As an outsider it’s fucking bizarre to witness.

[–] harmsy@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, Republican politicians and a minority of voters have decided it's acceptable, and because of our convoluted and poorly designed political system, the rest of us are forced to put up with it.

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[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Oh it's already covered in the same breath as the real housewives drama from my SO. It's barely cared about. I don't think anyone actually even feels sad about anymore except for some of the families involved. Just another day in the life of the greatest dream.

Anger has replaced any sense of sadness and people are running out of anger too. Apathy. Self indulgent apathy is all we will have left. And fear that someone might take away their nice things. A country of children parading as adults as children die... How could you not look at it and weep.

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[–] HipHoboHarold@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I feel like it's barely front page news as it is. Like this is the only thing I'm seeing about this shooting. Last night on TikTok I found out about a shooting at a bar, what's the deadliest shooting in Maine to date. Happened on Oct 25th. I found out about it yesterday. 18 people killed, 13 injured. Still took me that long to see anything about it. Back when the Sandy Hook hooting happened, it was all over in minutes, and we didn't stop hearing about it for months. Now we might not hear about it at all.

https://wgme.com/news/local/maines-deadliest-mass-shooting-propels-homicides-to-new-high-in-the-state-gun-violence-schemengees-bar-and-grille-sparetime-recreationjust-in-time-recreation-crime-murder

[–] quindraco@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

For the curious, I looked it up. The reason he had access to a 6th grader to shoot in a High School is that it and the Middle School are really one big building in this case - so while it was a High School, it was also a Middle School.

This article lists a possible motive - years of bullying with the school admin refusing to do anything about it. I never did understand why none of my public schools ever did anything about my bullies. As an adult, if any of them tried it I'd call the police and use pepper spray - both banned actions in my schools.

[–] Rubanski@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Calling the police is a banned action??

[–] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Principals avoid taking actions that will put their campus in a negative light. They will call the police only when the situation cannot be hidden from the public such as a gun, assault with a weapon, or criminal trespassing. Teachers can only enforce the policies that the admin are willing to enforce. They're also discouraged from pressing charges under that of losing their job.

[–] endhits@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

American schools are prisons first, education centers second.

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[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 14 points 11 months ago

Nothing to see here but another NRA Freedom Celebration™, folks. Move along!

[–] Gazumi@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Easy access to arms WITHOUT rigour, training and monitoring leads to savage atrocities. Some clowns will highlight European countries with a similar gun ownership rate, but then fail to understand why we don't have those same atrocities.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I can save a pro-gun cultist the effort and just fill in this comment chain in advance:

Cultist: "Shall not be infringed"

Sane people: "Well regulated"

Cultist: "Well regulated doesn't mean subjected to regulations like background checks and not hitting your wife, it means well-functioning, like a watch

Sane people: "It's not that either. Your militia has no training or physical fitness standards, may never had to demonstrate safe and competent handling of their weapon and has an open contempt for the chain of command"

Cultist: "No but its a mental health problem"

Sane people: "Okay, sounds like gun owners should be have to undergo a mandatory mental health assessment before buying guns then"

Cultist: "If you try and make me prove I'm not a dangerous extremist I'll kill you".

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[–] Schmuppes@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Winter break, school shooting break. Of course both will recommence at the same time over there.

[–] Rusticus@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Onion article incoming with headline for the thousandth time

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[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago (55 children)

Seems about right, I'm just surprised it took so long into the new year for this to happen. No one has any right to feel bad about this - it's what people want, and Americans like guns more than kids, so nobody should be surprised or upset about this at all.

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