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Looks like the mods folded under pressure from the admins.

Anything related to this is deleted by the mods, control and silence for descent.

Wow how far Reddit has fallen.

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[–] Mane25@feddit.uk 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Very suspicious. Something strange is happening, at least two subreddits on my radar have just unexpectedly reopened with unusually positive comments heavily upvoted despite being against the tone of everything before, I've seen others reporting similar.

Edit: Also, a thread was originally posted by someone questioning the opening up, it was quickly hidden (it got supportive replies) and is now locked. Edit again: in less than an hour there have been several such threads that have vanished.

[–] gmtom@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm guessing admins are threatening to replace the mods and reddit mods being reddit mods are just desperate to hang on to their little bit of power. Either that or there no pressure and they just miss their modicum of power.

[–] sideone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

reddit mods being reddit mods are just desperate to hang on to their little bit of power.

I can understand not wanting to have the community that they built taken away by force. Sucks though

[–] chaosppe@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Regardless of their reasoning for reopening, the censorship type attitude now emanating from the sub is terrible news.

[–] Sausage@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

I'm suspicious of every sub that has reopened after they said they wouldn't. Reddit in general isn't a comfortable place any more

[–] Finnbot@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair CasualUK was the only sub keeping me active on reddit, even before the API changes. It's gonna be an adjustment getting my news etc from other sources, but so far, this community here is hitting the spot pretty well. I'd much rather be here if that's how quickly they caved :(

[–] leaskovski@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good point. I've chucked Google news back on my phone and I'm now trying to find a better news aggregator.

[–] pies1901@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] leaskovski@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I did use that in the past, but I got bored of the same sources. I think that's why I liked Reddit for news, because it came from an un-curated source that I had no control over, so I felt like I was getting every view and not a news outlets constant slant on things.

yes, and the ability to comment and discuss different viewpoints is so valuable to the way I consume news, because it allows me to understand the impact of the news on communities I am not part of.

[–] Confuzzeled@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Welp, they deleted all the comments in the stickied thread about remaining read only indefinitely. I refreshed and the stickied thread was deleted. Guess it's full take over time.

[–] TeaHands@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Gotta be honest, I assumed it already was. I've genuinely not had the urge to visit Reddit in days.

Victory!

[–] florge@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah same, I honestly think it's for the better. I've wasted so many hours just mindlessly scrolling through reddit. Sure I have to find some new sources for some things but I don't think I'll miss reddit.

[–] Senseibu@feddit.uk 12 points 1 year ago
[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My all time favourite subreddit hands down.

But as soon as my GDPR subject access request has yielded my reddit data to me I'll be deleting my account there and saying goodbye to 9 years and half a million fake internet points.

It definitely feels freeing and lemmy definitely feels more involved, more intimate, and less shitty.

[–] ArbitraryMary@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

As soon as Apollo shuts down on the 30th my account will go too. Happy to be here!

[–] Acetamide@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does anybody have a comparison between the mod lists before and after the blackout? It would be interesting to see whether any changes happened in that area.

[–] TSMKFail@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Might be possible to check via Web Archive

[–] SpikeyVic@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

There was definitely a sticky stating that it would remain read only indefinitely. I'd be surprised if the mods had just changed their minds without some sort of discussion from the sub. Probably Reddit forcing it.

[–] rubikfrog@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They've added a sticky explaining (sort of) their reasoning. And also apologizing to those who think they should remain closed. I was going to cut and paste some parts but then the 5 minute daily screen timer I've imposed for 'the app that shall not be named' ran out.

Something about standing in front of a dam with a sieve.

[–] JimmyAllnighter@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Greetings from upside-down land. Here’s a copy-paste of the sticky:

The mod team have always refrained from joining in Reddit activism but we felt strongly enough to join the API blackout to try to preserve the apps that drew us to Reddit initially. Our roles in this community will become more difficult as a result of this policy change, and accessibility for users with special requirements is severely lacking on Reddit's main application.
It is clear to us from Spez's leaked email that he remains unabashed by the pushback from the communities and is resilient in pushing forward with the policy change. With communities much larger and much more imposing than CasualUK dropping out of the blackout, it has started to feel like standing in front of a dam with a sieve.. The whole time, the thing that really suffers is this community. There is an enormous support network in this subreddit for those who need it, and we want to continue to encourage and foster that spirit. This has always been a refuge from the goings on around the rest of the platform and we do not with the userbase to suffer as a result of Reddit's determination to close the third party sites.
We apologise unreservedly to those who think we should remain offline indefinitely, and we welcome those who want just want a place to talk about their day, or to mention if someone has done a shit in your bin.

[–] VerifiablyMrWonka@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There is an enormous support network in this subreddit for those who need it

It's literally a meme sub where people laugh at tabloid articles and britishisms.

[–] matt@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol, right? I found it so weird when I saw that, the support network is the reasoning a lot of subs used to open, maybe they figured it would make them look better?

[–] VerifiablyMrWonka@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah. I've come to read that as "mods gotta mod"

[–] kev@mcr.town 2 points 1 year ago

I agree, but I wouldn't undervalue how much that simple human connection can mean to people who really need it.

[–] Andyzoot@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It feels like a weak rationale for reopening. I think we can all agree with that?

[–] Senseibu@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

UKcasual needs to come home to feddit.uk, just my 2 pence

[–] sideone@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The mods discussed it, but felt it would be a shame to lose the (at the time) 1000 people already subscribed. As far as I can see, the point of federation is that it can be anywhere?

[–] Senseibu@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I get it, just me being a bit of a neat freak and having all UK based sublemmys in one place, that said, good to have the resillency too if feddit.uk went down

[–] Mane25@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

There's an argument for having them spread out, so there's not a sinole point of failure.

[–] Granary@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The post and comments are weirdly surreal, as if the blackout never happened. none of the posts or comments even seem to mention it. Creepy!

[–] Apoidea@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

To be honest, that's how I feel about /r/casualuk and politics rule.

(Not going to share a political take don't worry mods), but everything is inherently political and so banning it feels disingenuous.

[–] Alchemy69@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Wow that was a rapid 180! I wonder what happened behind the scenes with the team

[–] LillianVS@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It's a shame, but I really do feel it was inevitable for people to buckle. Moderators are heavily invested in their communities for right and wrong reasons... and the users are just following muscle memory. They've been to that website daily and for most the API changes just don't have any impact on them at all. Well at least that they are aware of at this current point in time.

[–] kev@mcr.town 1 points 1 year ago

It was always going to happen. Big companies like this make unpopular decisions for business reasons. In some cases there's an outcry, and for social media sites that outcry is amplified by the simple nature of the site, but it always dies down.

Most people simply don't give a shit about this stuff and Reddit will make more money from the 90+% of people who remain then those who left anyway.

My only hope is that shearing off of some customers is enough to make this a sustainable community here in the same way that happened for Mastodon.

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