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[–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 158 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe he has a personal interest in this?

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The amendment would also reduce the designation of incest by contact to a Class D felony for some cases "unless it is committed with a person who is less than twelve years of age," in which case it is Class C.

uhhhhhhhhhhh…. that age cutoff seems low

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not if the child he has his eye set on is just above it. :-(

[–] S_204@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

She's 10, laws take time to enact....

These people are horrid.

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[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 128 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Hey Nick Wilson, tell us you fuck your cousin without telling us you fuck your cousin.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 80 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The amendment would also reduce the designation of incest by contact to a Class D felony for some cases “unless it is committed with a person who is less than twelve years of age,” in which case it is Class C.

his 13 year-old cousin, it seems

[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Less than 12 ... so basically she's 12.

[–] Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No, she will be 12 just before the law takes effect.

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[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 110 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Glad they are tackling the important issues in Kentucky. I'm sure every Kentuckyan has their ability to fuck their first cousin high on the list of problems they wish their government would address.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

“At 17 you can marry your first cousin but you can’t have hormones that your doctor is happy to prescribe”-Kentucky

Actually I’m surprised that’s the youngest I could make that joke. They recently raised the minimum marriage age to 17 with parental consent which like took you long enough but still good job

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[–] ApeCavalryArt@lemmy.world 65 points 10 months ago (5 children)

HB 269 - "The purpose of the bill is to add "sexual contact" to the incest statute. Currently, incest only applies in cases of intercourse. So sexual touching/ groping by .. anyone with a familial relationship is not included in incest. My bill makes that kind of sexual contact a Class D Felony, unless the victim is under the age of 12, then it increases the penalty to a Class C Felony."

Basically they accidentally left out cousins (and the bill has already been withdrawn) from what sounds like an otherwise good bill and the news media runs wild. Keep this handy when you hear about this for the next ( if <= heat death of the Universe )

[–] cactusupyourbutt@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (4 children)

imho incest should only be outlawed because of the risk of gene defects during pregnancy. so while nasty I dont think a hanky panky from your first cousin should be outlawed

and no, I dont have a hot cousin

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)

Beyond the potential biological issues, the biggest problem tends to be coercion and consent. The majority of incestuous encounters are abusive and involve a power dynamic that makes informed consent impossible.

Now, if every party is an adult and capable of informed consent, it is possible to test for likelihood of genetic defects based upon the parents' genes. So, I can't think of a non-subjective objection if, for example, they met for the first time as adults and didn't know of such relation. Still pretty weird to me but I don't think it's anyone's place to interfere with healthy, loving relationships.

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[–] Naja_Kaouthia@lemmy.world 61 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Christ on a bike I thought this was The Onion.

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 22 points 10 months ago

It should be, it should be for fucks sake, but this apparently is the timeline where it is not:-(.

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[–] oxjox@lemmy.ml 59 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So… the same party that wants to stop same sex couples from having sex is upset that the government is telling them whom they can’t have sex with? Golly.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (9 children)

"look, all I'm saying is, two men having consensual sex is wrong. Why can't they be normal and have sex with their 12 year old cousin, like me?"

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[–] craigers@lemmy.world 57 points 10 months ago (4 children)

So I do not endorse this guy or any GOP member in any way. But if you read the article he says dropping the first cousin from the list was an error of omission and not intentional, and he is re-filing the bill to include it. The intent of the bill was to expand the classification of incest beyond just intercourse to include any type of sexual contact. Which seems like its actually progressive, just not clickbait worthy.

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[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago

Because of course that's the top priority for Kentucky Republicans right now 🙄

[–] Mamertine@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Jokes aside.

Felony by definition means it's punishable by at least one year in prison.

So specifically, why are we incarcerating consenting adults for having sex?

From a moral point, don't do that. From a legal point, stay out of the bedroom.

I'll also add context of this is a very Western belief. Natives of America prevented inbreeding by not marrying within the clan. Your first cousins could be in a different clan and therefore open for marriage.

[–] breakingcups@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You say consenting adults, the bill says one of them can be as young as 13 years...

[–] Mamertine@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Yes, and I'll counter that argument by suggesting we ban having sex with children regardless of if the molester is related.

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[–] lntl@lemmy.ml 41 points 10 months ago (4 children)

How is this important enough to occupy the time of our politicians?

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I mean…look at that guy. It probably occupies all of his time. They intentionally picked that photo for this exact reason, I’m sure.

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[–] zzzz@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

It's jangling keys. So long as there are enough headlines about cousins banging, we won't have enough time left over to get upset about corruption, fascism, etc.

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[–] Pissnpink@feddit.uk 35 points 10 months ago

That's the look of a man the fucked his first cousin.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 34 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I rock climb in Kentucky sometimes. It looks like a war zone. Maybe they should fix the astounding levels of poverty, instead of ensuring that it’s legal to bang your family.

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[–] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Eh. I discovered that a married couple I know are first cousins, and have two very normal kids, so I looked into it.

From a genetics stand point, the risk of inbred related health risks are pretty negligible. I think it basically doubled the risk, on very small chances to begin with.

Yeah, it's still kind of weird and rude to talk about.

As mentioned elsewhere in the thread, the age portion of this law is the creepy part. It was my own bias that made the first cousins part weird. As others mentioned, it was pretty common for our tribal ancestors.

[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's pretty common still in multiple countries and in some migrant subcultures living in other countries. The consequences over multiple generations are not pretty.

An article with examples: https://www.dw.com/en/pakistan-cousin-marriages-create-high-risk-of-genetic-disorders/a-60687452

Imo it's still a bad idea to allow it. Even between first cousins of a family without a history of inbreeding, doubling the chance of genetic disorders is not nothing. Scale it up to many people doing it and it becomes a heavy burden on healthcare systems. And in countries with socialized healthcare, it's not really fair that everyone has to contribute more to healthcare because some people want to defy genetics. Imo again.

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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"I hate how everyone always stereotypes and makes fun of us southern states so much, it's not fair."

Then they go do shit like this.

[–] force@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

to be ""fair"" i'm pretty sure most (first world) countries actually don't restrict sex between first cousins. or same-sex incest for that matter. could be misremembering though

what is extremely sickening about it is the age the bill wants which makes it not at all comparable to most other countries (well except like France until recently maybe)

i mean it's still pretty incestuous so trying to separate it from other forms of incest as if it's so much different doesn't make much sense

edit: here's a map

lmao i like italy's stance. "yea bro u can fuck ur dad if the news doesn't find out"

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[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Republicans: "It's not pedophilia if we get rid of the laws making it illegal!"

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 12 points 10 months ago

Also Republicans: gay sex leads to pedophilia!

[–] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 29 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Guys. I just can't!

Rainbow flags and healthcare for trans people: no way fuck that shit! It's bad for children

Sex with family: no no. It's ok. It's my cousin.

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[–] RagingSnarkasm@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is he gonna push a bill to make sex between bros not gay next?

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[–] linuxfiend@kbin.social 22 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Someone wants to bang their first cousin.

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[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

"Republican tries to change law so he can fuck his family, nobody bat an eye"

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[–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (3 children)

This is the most Kentucky thing I’ve ever heard today!

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[–] J12@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article284338699.html

Apparently the bill was supposed to expand the prosecution of incest not make more of it. Who knows with the KY state reps.

Since we’re talking about KY reps. Damon Thayer is a corrupt scumbag.

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The article conveniently leaves out that 19 states allow marriages between first cousins and additional states allow those marriages under certain conditions according to Wikipedia. It also is legal in most countries.

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 10 months ago

he must be from shelbyville

[–] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The law should not be what is preventing people from fucking their cousins for fuck sake

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Oh so this is why all of Project Zomboid's maps are in Kentucky. They're not zombies, just inbred.

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

“This candidate knows how to speak to his base”

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

The jokes write themselves.

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Of course they did.

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