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Which GW2 community is going to be the ONE? (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by necropola@lemmy.world to c/guildwars2@lemmy.wtf

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/169206

Wouldn't it be better to merge than to compete?

Edit: Looks like the community on lemmy.ml is pretty much dead.

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[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I created !guildwars2@lemmy.wtf because !guildwars2@lemmy.ml does not have en active moderator and lemmy.ml itself is having a tough time dealing with the influx of new users, making the site very sluggish. It's getting better now, but the point of Lemmy (the Fediverse) is to spread out among multiple servers.

In the case of !guildwars2@kbin.social, which is different from Lemmy, I didn't realize it existed because a bug disabled federation between kbin and Lemmy. Were that to happen again, everyone on Lemmy would be cut off from !guildwars2@kbin.social.

kbin: This is a very early beta version, and a lot of features are currently broken or in active development, such as federation. Source...

!guildwars2@kbin.social does have 17 more subscribers, but !guildwars2@lemmy.wtf have twice the amount of comments ;)

Edit: Disclaimer: I am the maintainer (administrator) of lemmy.wtf

[–] necropola@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, syncing (federation) between lemmy instances and kbin.social has only just started to work (again). I made this list to document which "lemmy reachable" GW2 communities I could find and cross-posted it to all 3 communities.

I hope that at least one will survive, since I'm not intending to ever go back to reddit.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

!guildwars2@lemmy.ml is pretty dead, but I don't see why !guildwars2@lemmy.wtf and !guildwars2@kbin.social couldn't co-exist. They are even on two different platforms.

[–] necropola@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Well, I'm currently subscribed to all 3 and since federation now works with kbin.social I can access their GW2 community just like it were on a native lemmy instance. Which is pretty cool.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 3 points 1 year ago

It is, until federation breaks again (hopefully not) :P

[–] Evolushan@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm subscribed to the ml as well as kbin and have accounts in both but I can't seem to view posts from the ml there alongside the kbin ones. I can see that the ml is linked and I can subscribe to it, but how do I get the kbin to show a merger of both?

Also shouldn't we link the wtf instance too in the kbin?

[–] necropola@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Usually you don't need accounts on other instances to interact with their communities, e. g. my account is on lemmy.world, but I'm subscribed to 3 GW2 communities on 3 different instances one of which even being a different platform (kbin and not lemmy).

These communities now appear as if they were on my instance, but are in fact local copies which are synchronized/federated using the ActivityPub protocol.

Note that these communities are not merged, i .e. they still appear as separate communities, but there is a (pretty popular) feature request for this on GitHub.

Support for grouping communities / multi-communities #818

I don't know whether federation from lemmy to kbin is currently supported. I'm only using the other direction.

[–] Evolushan@lemmy.wtf 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the answer and the link ! That makes sense, then I'll wait and see if there is some traction/progress on the GitHub post!

I thought that going to https://www.lemmy.world/c/guildwars2@lemmy.wtf+guildwars2@lemmy.ml would work but that's the whole point of the request

[–] ulu_mulu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

!guildwars2@lemmy.wtf is the one I chose after seeing the one on lemmy.ml being dead.

I think it would be better to stay here, as you said, lemmy.ml has some problems due to the huge influx of players, and the point of lemmy is to spread out, so let's do that.

I didn’t realize it existed because a bug disabled federation between kbin and Lemmy

Didn't they temporarily disabled it because we rexxitors were hugging them to death?

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 year ago

That’s possible, I just read something else.

[–] empyrean@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

People will follow the content. I don't think there is any need for merge. All of them can co-exist just fine.

[–] Scorxcho@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Somewhat off topic but do you know how to subscribe to a kbin magazine from a lemmy server?

[–] necropola@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You need to search on your instance (lemm.ee) for their community/magazine which should produce a link like this ...

https://lemm.ee/c/guildwars2@kbin.social

... which you can use to subscribe.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 3 points 1 year ago

Go to search and put in this link: https://lemm.ee/c/guildwars2@kbin.social then wait for a bit and the magazine should show up.

[–] dominoko@vlemmy.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My preferred account is on Kbin.social but I can't view this community through Kbin. I get a 404 error. I wonder if lemmy.wtf isn't federating with kbin?

Are there any other kbinners here? I really would prefer to subscribe to all GW2 communities under one account.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you able to view the GW2 community on Lemmy.ml from kbin?

[–] dominoko@vlemmy.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 year ago

I’ve tried to debug it by creating an account for on kbin.social and trying to access guildwars2@lemmy.wtf and also trying to subscribe to guildwars2@kbin.social from here, but I can’t see anything in the logs.

[–] lulztard@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well I can't create an account at lemmy.ml, so I guess I'm stuck with this one here, heh.

[–] necropola@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Unless lemmy.ml decides to unfederate from lemmy.wtf you should be able to subscribe to any community on lemmy.ml using your lemmy.wtf account. And it even appears like lemmy.wtf already knows about the community on lemmy.ml. Otherwise you would have needed to search once for it (from lemmy.wtf) using the full URL.

This is your local copy: https://lemmy.wtf/c/guildwars2@lemmy.ml

[–] lulztard@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I also can't log in. The animation just keeps going, no matter the browser.

[–] necropola@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well, you appear to be logged in on lemmy.wtf and you don't need to be loged in on lemmy.ml to access (subscribe to) their GW2 community using the link (This is your local copy:) above.

Maybe federation (syncing) doesn't work properly at the moment. Many instances kinda struggle at the moment due to the high number of new users joining the fediverse (leaving reddit).

[–] lulztard@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Subscribe pending" for almost 15 seconds. But now I'm subscribed. Fascinating in an absolutely nerdy kind of way, heh. Thanks for the tech support!

[–] necropola@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

You should also be able to subscribe to the GW2 community/magazine on kbin.social with your lemmy.wtf account by using the following link:

https://lemmy.wtf/c/guildwars2@kbin.social

Sometimes this takes quite a while and when you refresh your browser window (while the "busy" animation is still playing) the status turns to "Subscribe Pending" (yelllow). From my experience this already counts as a "success" and will eventually turn into "Subscribed" (green) later.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 year ago

Usually it will subscribe immediately, but since everyone is trying to signup at lemmy.ml, everything is very sluggish there.

[–] ulu_mulu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You don't need an account on lemmy.ml to access their communities.

My account is on lemmy.world, I can participate in both lemmy.ml and lemmy.wtf just fine.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 year ago

Stuck? :( :( :(

[–] artichoke@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Since kbin seems to have issues talking to lemmy.wtf, it'd be nice if we didn't centralize around this lemmy.wtf, at least until the federation issues with lemmy.wtf get fixed

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