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[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 293 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The MDHS State Disbursement Unit is the Child Support department. Dude went nuts because he doesn't want to pay child support. What a POS.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 111 points 10 months ago (2 children)

One of their biggest things they're always trying to do is "discharge" theur child support.

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 68 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Yeah they are. But fun fact, garnishments and liens work just as well without an INTERNATIONAL TREATY and a surprising number of these loons still work and own stuff.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 57 points 10 months ago (29 children)

"I don't have anything to do with that kid! Why should I have to pay child support?"

Unfortunately I know people like that in real life, who don't seem to understand that the child support is largely because they want nothing to do with their kid

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[–] Garbanzo@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago

I only agreed to get my dick wet, your child support contract is invalid

[–] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 200 points 10 months ago (5 children)

“I DO NOT HAVE AN INTERNATIONAL TREATY WITH YOU” is about to be my go to line to get out of uncomfortable situations.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 49 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I still like, "YOU'RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR"

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago (6 children)

"THIS IS NOT MY BEAUTIFUL WIFE"

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 47 points 10 months ago

I love this assertion by them. Because it's them saying they are an independent nation. But they are living on or within the US's declared borders and do not have a treaty as the American Indians do. Therefore they'd qualify as invaders or secessionist and the US military/immigration authorities should have jurisdiction to prosecute them. Afterall, this Sovereign Citizen is currently abroad in another country.

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[–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 134 points 10 months ago (13 children)

I DO NOT KNOW WHO YOU ARE

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND YOUR INTENT

Bullshit. You know that mail is regarding the child support payments you're trying to weasel your way out of.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago (3 children)

They are always asking how to "discharge" child support on the sovcit groups.

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[–] arc@lemm.ee 89 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The best thing about sovereign citizens is they're the only ones not in on the joke.

[–] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago (3 children)

And they so persistently do not understand why their BS doesn't work.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Honestly their BS does kind of work they just seem unable to grasp that all the things they're saying also apply to everyone else. They don't have to aknowledge their electricity providers authority to charge them for electricity and the electric company doesn't have to keep supplying it. Its like some kind of extreme narcisicm.

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 87 points 10 months ago (2 children)

> Refuses to open letter

> I DO NOT UNDERSTAND YOUR INTENT

Ok, buddy.

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[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 87 points 10 months ago (1 children)

By and large, I think most of these people are just trying to get out of legal and financial obligations. I bet if a government agency sent them a check, they'd fucking cash it. But it's when they're required to pay money or complete the littlest forms that they balk. They are just bad scammers.

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 80 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (9 children)

"Not a US citizen"

Okay, so GTFO if you're renouncing your citizenship. And don't use any public roads or services as you're leaving...

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 60 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

If these people are not citizens of any country, they’d have to be deported to International Waters for not holding a visa right?

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 59 points 10 months ago (8 children)

I know you’re just making a joke but statelessness is actually a huge headache for both the individual and Governments in dealing with them.

https://www.unhcr.org/about-unhcr/who-we-protect/stateless-people

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[–] cdf12345@lemmy.world 59 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Why do they always have the same handwriting?

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 52 points 10 months ago

It's the lead poisoning.

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[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That motherfucker must feel so powerful writing that... stuff.

I mean the only other kick he's going to get is to the teeth by the feds, so I hope he's getting something out of it.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 10 months ago (20 children)

I think this person will find that they are very much a citizen of the United States of America.

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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Is this the kind of people who post disclaimers in social media that "unauthorize" the company running said social media from using the "content" they post there?

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[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Should these “sovereign citizens” be arrested and put in illegal migrant camps the minute they set foot on public roads, or should we reserve that VIP treatment only for brown Spanish-speaking people?

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[–] pensivepangolin@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sovereign citizens are some of the stupidest dregs of society. It doesn’t even take proper legal training to realize how wrong and how stupid their statements are when they do this kind of garbage.

[–] DaCookeyMonsta@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

It requires such a weird pick and choose approach to the law to make these arguments and it just baffles me. Like who do they even expect to back them?

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago

"Not a U.S. citizen"

Throw this ass clown out into international waters like they're DJ Jazzy Jeff overstaying his welcome

[–] Lemmygizer@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago (2 children)

"All Rights Reserved"

But none of the responsibilities.

Also, "I'm only affected by international treaties because I'm a Sovereign Citizen" and "This correspondence is illegal duo to US law Title 18 1341&1342.”

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[–] LavaPlanet@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago

Sovereign citizens are a hilarious little delight to break up the drudge that these times bring. There's always a balance.

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago (3 children)

AM I BEING DETAINED OR AM I FREE TO GO WHY AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED OR AM I FREE TO GO WHY AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED OR AM I FREE TO GO WHY AM I BEING DETAINED AM I BEING DETAINED OR AM I FREE TO GO WHY AM I BEING DETAINED

[–] ZMonster@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago (8 children)

I am assuming you posted this in jest, so forgive me if I've missed the bus, but these are actually very important things to ask for everyone when approached by LE. Charges get dismissed when they answer them wrong or inaccurately. I many cases, they do not have the right to withhold an articulable suspicion, so getting their lack of a response is extremely important, and these two questions are how you get that.

That said, people can also use them to be obnoxious, so I also assume that might have been the joke here. Sorry again. I'm very dense.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I bet their car is a fucking sight.

[–] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 40 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

These people are called Cookers where I'm from, because their brain is cooked.

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[–] Masterchief117@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

One of my favorite youtubers munecat made a great video on Sovereign Citizens and how the brain rot is going international

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[–] Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Title 18 1341 covers fraud by US mail. I kind of doubt that official government agencies, with charters and legal authorities for operation, are committing mail fraud on the regular and that sovereign citizens are the only ones smart enough to peel back the veil.

Maybe the rest of us sheeple need to wake up.

I wonder what kind of protections and rights that sovereign citizens actually have. Non-US citizen resident aliens and tourists with Visas all enjoy some rights. Native peoples with tribal sponsorship have another set of rights. Sovereign citizens fall into none of those buckets as they reject the notion of obtaining permission to enter and reside in-country and they also apparently renounce citizenship if they had it in the first place. Does this mean that they fall into the illegal alien classification? As people with no country, where would they even be deported to?

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

I do not know who you are and I do not understand your intent

My dude, the name of the organization and the stated intent of the letter is literally in the envelop you're writing on top of.

[–] corroded@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This very much walks the line between "sovereign citizen lunatic" and "needs to be committed to a mental institution." Although to be fair, it's a pretty blurry line.

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[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I was about to say 'these people vote' but....do they?

[–] Garbanzo@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Heck no, voting would create enjoinder merging the real person with the legal person and they'd have to write their name in all capital letters from then on and put a gold fringe on all their flags

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Why did you just respond to me? I do not understand your intent.

I DO NOT HAVE AN INTERNATIONAL TREATY WITH YOU

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[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I can't believe we forgot to sign a treaty with this fellow.

Hey, Blinken!!

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They’ve used all the magical incantations they could find on social media while doing “research.”

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[–] Maddie@sh.itjust.works 23 points 10 months ago

This is like a shittier unhinged version of Liam Neeson's phone call in Taken

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