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[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 100 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 96 points 10 months ago (5 children)

If they hand you a gun and tell you to march off to die in a foreign land, turn the gun around on your killer.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 84 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (57 children)

LOL, the support of Ukraine is happening exactly so we don't get WW3 and won't have to send our soldiers to fight.

Anyone who thinks Ukraine is Russia's ultimate goal is extremely naive.

It wasn't Crimea, it wasn't Georgia, it wasn't Chechnya. It won't stop until

Here's a quick summary of what it is about: https://youtu.be/M6tsp4mFix8

This is a book published in 1997 which Putin was following and largely until full invasion of Ukraine everything was going smoothly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

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[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 68 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Why don't Presidents fight the war? Why do they always send the poor?

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.ml 21 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Fortunate Son. Their is a song about this but let me teach you a lesson about poverty entrapment. Because it's easy to take advantage of everybody if you artificially take away the most important parts of people's lives. Capitalism is designed to make you suffer and the military takes advantage of it to send the least fortunate to the front lines in hopes of a monetary reward because capitalism is designed to keep you under unless you are 1%. Now I have an entire population desperate for money and I need lives on the front line you get the shitshow that is capitalism with the military? Eat the rich. Those piggies are fattest and juiciest.

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[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 53 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Of course not. Millennials are too old and unless things kick off in the next couple years, gen z will be too.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What are we calling the generation below them? I’m really losing track nowadays.

[–] yeather@lemmy.ca 42 points 10 months ago

Gen Alpha, they don’t have a nickname yet.

[–] skydivekingair@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Gen A. They’re around middle school and younger now.

[–] SketchySeaBeast@lemmy.ca 67 points 10 months ago (3 children)

A whole generation of Forest Gump's girlfriend?

[–] Pohl@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Hey. This is a great joke. Thanks.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago (11 children)

Before World War I and World War II, many thought things would not escalate until we realised it was far too late. The British intelligence thought the assassination of Franz Ferdinand would only be contained regionally instead of escalating to a world war.

Most wars are class wars and most issues are class issues. But most people are not class conscious. The base tribalism is instead drummed up to distract us from the real root cause. We're seeing the rise of the far right in many countries such as in Europe, US and India. Most of the rise of the right is due to influx of migrants, who are displaced by neocolonial foreign policies of corporate backed governments and capitalism-induced global warming.

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 40 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Millennials volunteered for Iraq.

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[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 10 months ago (21 children)

This sentiment of 'I'm not going to fight' is funny until the war actually starts. And then it's either you fight early, or you fight late. Sometimes too late.

[–] MinusPi@yiffit.net 23 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Nah. I'd legitimately rather kill myself than fight for my government.

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[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago (22 children)

You'd be amazed what some good old fashion propaganda will do for you.

The US was so gung-ho after 9-11 they accidentally attacked the wrong country. I know they didn't have any problem getting troops or buy-in from the people of all ages. It was pretty disgusting how quickly your average citizen bought into the bull-shit the Bush administration was selling when it was obviously a lie.

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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 35 points 10 months ago (74 children)

I mean it definitely depends on the circumstances. If Russia attacks here then I'm absolutely fighting.

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[–] Stanwich@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago

As long as they are recruiting the dumbest and poorest from your failing high-schools you'll always have enough for your wars.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'll defend my country, but I'm not going to engage in an armed conflict overseas.

IMO, as long as it's not directly threatening me and my life, then I will simply see another WW as old people who are angry at other old people, sending me off to die for their grudge.

No thanks chief. Stick me in prison if you're so inclined but I'm not about to kill some poor kid I've never met and I don't have anything against, just because you can't use your words.

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[–] skankhunt42@lemmy.ca 26 points 10 months ago (14 children)

Millennial here. Can confirm, I'll be staying home and doing my own thing. One live isn't worth more then another and I'm not going to war. If you're going to put me in jail because I refuse, then maybe I need to find a different country to live in.

[–] kusuriya@infosec.pub 15 points 10 months ago

On the very off chance they restarted the draft, there are tons of reasons the Pentagon would fight conscription, make sure you know asylum procedures or have the stuff ready to immigrate. Run don't try to just ignore the draft.

They, the last time they did the draft, didn't just throw normies into jail, they grabbed them then kicked them over to the military and then if you ran away and got brought back after being AWOL they just deployed you and let happen what happened, regulars frequently discovered that these sorts had... uhh... "accidents" at a more frequent rate.

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[–] tweeks@feddit.nl 23 points 10 months ago (6 children)

The first gun they'll give me I'll aim at myself and be done with it.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 10 months ago (4 children)

You can aim it at your commanding officer first!

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[–] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago (6 children)

My kid doesn't particularly want to fight, but she's ok with guns and convinced anarchy will be good for the environment?! Idk, she's not dumb, but these kids have less stake in the institutions than MAGA retirees..

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Does she mean "anarchy" or Anarchism, a stateless classless society based on voluntary associations?

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[–] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 10 months ago

The fact they will never have the chance to enter the ownership class keeps manifesting in new and interesting ways in the media, at their jobs, in their schools, amongst their social circles. The decline in availability of material wealth destabilizes all.

Yall ever seen Daybreakers? It's kinda corny but it feels more relevant every day.

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[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (10 children)

So...they are going to send gen x and gen alpha?

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[–] Elementalbeast@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Between propaganda and indecision, a whole generation will learn of conscription.

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[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (15 children)

Nah fuck ya'll Ima sign up if we have an enemy worth fighting for the first time in my life. I'll push the lines to Moscow, Beijing, idgaf: dictatorships will destroy us all if left unchecked, make life not worth living for everyone. The whole time I'm deployed I'm going to be using absentee ballots, and if I make it back I'm gonna use my new cred to run for office and fight the corporations, too.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 43 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you are in the US, you might wanna prevent your own dictatorship first.

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[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago

When you show zero loyalty out, it's hard to get loyalty back.

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