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[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (17 children)

Nah fuck ya'll Ima sign up if we have an enemy worth fighting for the first time in my life. I'll push the lines to Moscow, Beijing, idgaf: dictatorships will destroy us all if left unchecked, make life not worth living for everyone. The whole time I'm deployed I'm going to be using absentee ballots, and if I make it back I'm gonna use my new cred to run for office and fight the corporations, too.

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[–] Mac@mander.xyz 14 points 10 months ago

I would defect to the afterlife before fighting a war for this country.

[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

I'm too old, I'm bipolar, and honestly I'm not scared to shit my pants and/or dress if necessary.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The alternative is getting conquered by the types of governments whose people have already been pruned for the warcry. It has happened before, it has toppled democracies in the past time and time again, and it will happen again, but with nuclear weapons.

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[–] NIB@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (11 children)

If that is an option for a western liberal state but it isnt an option for an authoritarian state, guess which state will win. And then it wont be an option anywhere.

You have to fight for your rights. And authoritarian states know that your attitude is prevalent and they intend to exploit it.

Now you might say "but of course i will defend against an invasion". Well, what about an invasion next door? What about a tiny landgrab of let's say 50sqkm. Would you willing to die for such a small piece of land? This kind of "small" infractions and hybrid warfare is how Ukraine almost lost its entire country.

And this isnt a "Russia" thing, it is an "everywhere thing".

Hitler did the same, he didnt go from the start "you know, everything is ours". No, they just went to help some ethnic germans in Czechia, then took a break(Munich Agreement). Then went to help some germans in Poland and took a break(Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact). And since they were winning and those damn russians might attack them, they might as well attack first. But such a campaign would require a lot of resources and to secure their flank, so i guess the germans needed to grab a few more countries too.

Strongmen and authoritarians only respect and understand power. Anything else appears as weakness to them. If you are not willing to use violence and they are, then you will lose. Even if you dont lose now, you will lose in the future.

PS And no, people wont "rise up" against an authoritarian government. Thats not how things work.

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[–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (19 children)

Uhm, doofus, nobody's gonna fight in ww3.

Bombs get launched and we ALL die, that's how ww3 is faught.

It's frightening how little the younger generations understand about nuclear war.

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[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago

I mean, if another world war happened, I can't speak for anyone else, but I'll at least be willing to do civilian duty to help the war effort in my country since I can't join the military due to medical reasons, unless they get desperate and start taking everyone regardless of health issues. I definitely ain't doing it out of patriotism or nationalism, but just to make my final years feel like they ment something when we inevitably launch the nukes.

[–] ULS@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

Classic hand on the shoulder play.

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I was already in and got out. Fuck 'em.

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