If they can't take Ukraine with the US providing the bare minimum amount of aid the Republicans will allow, I'm curious what they think they can accomplish against our best efforts in an actual war.
this post was submitted on 13 Feb 2024
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I'm not curious at all. Let's just stop this shit already.
How unlikley is it they've held back at minimum one airplane and a big ass bomb (atomic, nuclear, etc, I have no idea) for the USA? Best effort or not, if one thing gets through some people are fucked. Some is more then none and that's too much.
On the other hand the United States has been politically gridlocked for the last 15 years because of Russian puppets. For some of us that's been as good as a death sentence.
Absolutely - and I bet with Trump in office he could almost taste the win.
Imagine Trump being in office and him basically kneecapping any response to Russian aggression in Europe. He could bring the US to its knees by trying to play wannabe dictator and tying us up dealing with all the civil unrest that will follow from that. Meanwhile, Europe is left to its own devices to try to handle Russia on its own (with Trump even likely providing intelligence to Russia or even withholding aid to Europe, as he's already promised to do). All signs are kind of pointing to this eventuality if Trump gets elected, and Republicans are too dumb to understand it (or they don't care, because "F* Europe", right?).
The US was late to WW1 and WW2. Wants to go 3 for 3 apparently.
Yeah, let's see... So far Ukraine was able to take down planes deep into Russia's territory, bomb Moscow, sink flagship of the Russian Navy, disable the most protected bridge in the country and bomb HQ of Black Sea fleet. All that with spare European weapons and toys. You really think that Europe would need US help to fight Russia? This war has proven that Russian army is in terrible state. Their weapons are shit and commanders are incompetent. They are struggling with a army 1/5th their size. Russia is once again back to their WWI strategy of sacrificing thousands after thousands of soldiers. At this point one has to be delusional to think Russia could fight Europe.
The UK or France alone could devastate Russia. Poland could hold it's own in a defensive war easily. Turkey could also fuck them up completely.
If war started in Europe the Russians would be fucked by combined EU forces.
Europe doesn't NEED America to defend itself.
War isn't won by forces alone, you also need the economy, morale and political wherewithal to endure and survive the destruction.
Neither EU country could stomach a prolonged war, possibly only the Baltics and Finland are at all prepared for a couple years of war, and won't be able to supply their troops for that long without US support.
Case in point, Europe is giving about half of the total aid for Ukraine, but almost none of the armaments even though it would be far more preferable for relations, training, logistics, and defence. Part of it is that they don't keep stockpiles, part is that they don't have the industry to replace ammunition, neither of which bodes well for a prolonged conflict.
They think they are going to elect a foreign asset to the office of US president and that we will then stand down.
Trump already promised to pull out of NATO if he wins.
To be honest even Russia isn't that stupid to touch NATO.
The article is rage bait
Your best effort? Nuclear armageddon. Both europe and russia will be wiped off of world map. US might be able to survive but some towns will be Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
That is with your best effort, so save your fucking bullshit.
I mean i kinda see this as a good thing. After seeing how they faired in ukraine i cant wait to see what poland will do to them (theu still got a lot og historical anger to vent) let alone nato.
I'm sure Poland is looking forward to splitting Kaliningrad up with Lithuania.
It would be a nightmare for whoever gets it, because it comes with people, and suddenly you have a new giant voting block who want to see your whole country become part of Russia.
So, in actuality, neither country wants Kaliningrad.
This is I think what Russians don't understand about the insanity of their leaders suggesting "The West" would ever want to invade... That their land could be lost.
Healthy democratic nations would bend over backwards to avoid taking ownership of any land that comes with Russians. It just isn't worth it.
Unless you deport them back to Russia en masse
That would be objectively evil.
No, it's already settled that Královec je Český
That fine too, TBH.
Hopefully, Putin won’t be around that long
Putin is struggling to hold on to the gains he's made in a single country. Now he thinks he's going to take on the rest of the industrialized world at once? Get real. Either launch your nukes or shut the fuck up. Hearing about his delusions of grandeur is so annoying at this point.
Putin is struggling to hold on to the gains he’s made in a single country. Now he thinks he’s going to take on the rest of the industrialized world at once? Get real. Either launch your nukes or shut the fuck up. Hearing about his delusions of grandeur is so annoying at this point.
I don't support nuclear war but I agree with the sentiment. Bro is a clown and Republicans and their sycophants cucking themselves for a failure as they've been demonstrated to be is hilarious. The mental gymnastics must be tiresome.
Oh yeah, I'm definitely not advocating for nuclear war. I'm just pointing out that he doesn't have many other options left. He certainly can't win a ground war against NATO, even if the US abandons the alliance like Trump seems to want us to do. Basically, if everyone knows you're full of shit why are you still running your mouth?
When people keep taking shit after they've been slapped, it's time to slap them again. The EU really needs to step up, and provide that slap. With even a bit of material support the EU could step up and push Russia 75km into Russian territory and establish a no fly zone.
Russia's a joke.
He's got three random low cards on the table while threatening to play a royal flush and take the pot.
Putin isn't going to live 10 more years.
Republicans are about to get completely swept out of office. It's now or never.
Lmao
Say when.
Bring China.
Well give you a 3 week head start.