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It sounds like things are going well for this guy and that is great and all, but how much would we honestly expect to hear if it wasn't going well?
This story is circulating all the media outlets and feels more like PR than a legit example of how this procedure is actually going to work for most people.
It sounds like things are going well for this guy and that is great and all, but how much would we honestly expect to hear if it wasn't going well?
Given how eager people are to pounce on negative news about anything Elon Musk-related, I expect we would be hearing way, way more about this if it wasn't going well. "Elon Musk's Neuralink Damages a Man's Brain!" and "Elon Musk's Neuralink Fails!" Headlines and such from every rooftop.
Can't we just fling him into the sun and let someone else take over these companies?
That takes an immense amount of fuel. We orbit the sun at 30 km/s, of which you have to cancel about 24 km/s to actually hit it. This is after escaping Earth's atmosphere (another 11 km/s of delta V) and effective sphere of influence which takes even more fuel. We could use some gravity assists off the moon and inner planets to get there, but even then it's not really economical. Our best bet would be to send him out super far using ~9 km/s of dV, and then use a very small amount to cancel out any remaining angular momentum and let him slowly fall into the sun. Unfortunately, as with all efficient space maneuvers, you pay for them in time, and this maneuver would take you 3 years. We'd have to somehow support the little bastard all that time but it might just be doable.
You mean like these articles doing the rounds a while back? https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-pcrm-neuralink-monkey-deaths/
considering that we're not out of the realm of complications... it's too soon to know if it's going well or not.
there's a reason most CBI researchers are keeping things as not-implants.
Patient 2: "unresponsive"
Two years later
Patient 27: "unresponsive"
Patient 28: "Guys! We've got a live one here!"
It let him control a mouse with his brain, which is actually great since he's a quadriplegic. Getting it if you aren't fully paralyzed would be stupid.
My only concern is that people are going to think that he only stayed playing civ all night because it’s exciting to do something. But that’s not the case.
Innocent people are going to try this game and keep saying “one more turn”.
loool, we need to team up with schools and warn the kids of the danger that civ poses to their health and their future
Just one more turn AAAANNND it's dawn!
I would be a lot more impressed if the brain implant had given him the willpower to walk away and go to bed
I think it's an amazing advancement and that's awesome for a quadriplegic person to interact with the world.
The part that I haven't heard anyone mention is what is the life cycle of these chips. Computers and cell phones all become outdated so quickly. Are recipients guaranteed upgraded chips as they become available?
I was reading an article recently about people who have had implants in their eyes that help them to see become obsolete. One because the company stopped supporting the specific version that was in the patient. The other because the company had gone out of business.
Even if the chip never went obsolete, the scar tissue build up around implanted brain devices interferes with signal over time and they need to be replaced.
Also, each installation/replacement has a few percentage point chance of leading to a life threatening infection.
Unless both those issues are solved, irrespective of obsolescence this is only the sort of thing that makes sense for patients who feel that their life is effectively over without it and have low risk thresholds for treatment options.
Ever seen Johnny Mnemonic? He had a whole 80gb storage in his brain and upgraded it to 160gb. Future proof. He'd almost be able to install a modern AAA title!
The story of "Second Sight" and the folks that depended on them is pretty sad. I hope there's some kind of backup plan in case the company goes under, gets acquired, or decides to abandon existing technology. Like placing the key tech in a trust of sorts.
This tech is extremely experimental and nowhere near ready to market as a consumer device that a regular person can purchase, so a lot of those questions don't really have answers.
One... More... Turn...
I have played one game of Civ in my life. After spending the better part of a weekend with it, I realized the “one more turn” thing was too addictive for me and decided it was best if I never play the game again.
And then the realization hits that you're at turn 200 and it takes like half an hour
I’m very happy for this guy. Fuck musk.
The start of the article is confusing. Given what it tells us that the patient has been doing, it sounds like the chip only acts as a receptor of the brain's outputs, this is, the chip should act on the brain as little as possible. However,
The billionaire also hinted at the time that the implant was functioning well and had detected a “promising neuron spike”.
Which makes it sound like the very opposite. Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if Elon had no goddamn idea about what the implant does yet rushed to comment on it anyway.
Or, he's just a liar.
I don't know why, I have zero reason to even think this. Maybe it's my growing distaste for Musk and his bullshit. But something about this whole thing has my "press X to doubt" meter going off the charts.
If I'm wrong. Great. But something in my gut tells me that you don't just go from multiple dead test subjects and a steven king novel's worth of FDA investigations, to suddenly having someone using it perfectly fine with no side effects.
Again, this is all allegedly. I have no proof or evidence either way. It's just my own gut. So don't sue me, Elon.
We've been able to do this for years. The difficult part has been making it cheap, reliable and non-invasive. Electrodes in the brain degrade neural tissue and... There's good reason this isn't done on the regular.
You're right to be sceptical, considering Musk's other company - Tesla - faked self-driving footage on his direction. The videos were just straight up edited to generate hype while in reality the product was still failing during internal testing.
I was expecting the source to be The Onion
Good game choice.
Could you imagine if he used his new powers to be toxic in League of Legends instead?
This is your scheduled reminder that Musk's companies have a history of faking test footage and results on his direction.
I have 200 hours in Civ 6, and have yet to win a game on anything except points. The latter eras are such a slog.
You almost need to pick your victory condition at the start and focus everything on that, and what you can't focus on that win condition you focus on denying the win for someone else, whoever happens to be winning by that point. Generally the same will be over before you get to the modern era.
Religion and war are the sloggiest.
I want Doom running on a Neuralink outputting the game directly in your eyes
The year is 2028, and thousands of neckbeards, volunteers of Musk's implant program, run screaming through the streets, blasting people with shotguns and cutting them down with chainsaws. The DOOM Zombie Crisis has begun.
I'm pretty sure this could be done non-invasively like 5 years ago if not 10
Fuck Elon, but that’s awesome for this guy.