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This will have been drawn from the work of Erin Reed Though its worth noting her only firm, DO NOT TRAVEL, so far, is florida. Though the rest are of course still dangerous.

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[–] JoMomma@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This has been the map of places I'm willing to travel since the 80's... I guess not much has progressed

[–] antidote101@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

But lots of states have safe trains and railroads, there aren't that many crashes or derailments of passanger trains.

[–] alphanerd4@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

i love this idea and i think that the biggest hurdle to overcome is s similar one that martin luther king jr encountered: moderates who don't believe that they're prejudiced.

for example: when gay marriage was a hotly contested issue; i lost track of the number of times straight people would insist it was good enough that gays can have all the rights of marriage in domestic partnerships without actual marriage and call themself an ally in the same breath.

there's also plenty of examples of businesses happily taking money from gays while claiming to be allies and simultaneously spending that money on lobbying for anti-gay laws. eg chik-fil-a, gold's gym, salvation army, etc.

[–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago

I have.

https://onlysky.media/ccassidy/the-good-old-days-refuted-by-a-single-book/

This article makes a glorious point. If I ever move to the US I'm gonna buy this book and carry it around any time I expect to argue with a certain kind of red-hatted folk.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You didn't have to do NH like that

[–] RedSeries@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Having been there, it's better this way. Truly the armpit of New England.

[–] jeansburger@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

It's the South of the North

[–] Gigan@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

What's happening to trans people in the other states?

[–] alphanerd4@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

not much change on a day to day basis, but its huge in terms of codifying the brutal arrests that are already common throughout the US. But Yes, increased risk of frivolous arrest, extrajudicial violence, democide. 'A reinstitution of republican principles',. not sure how else to say...

[–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 0 points 7 months ago

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/24-of-transgender-adults-report-access

It was never about "grooming", or protecting the kids, or women's sports. If it was, they wouldn't need to lie in their propaganda.

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/delete-this-mistaken-victory-claims

There are organized groups in this country that want trans people to disappear, and if that means making life so intolerable that suicides happen and removing healthcare mandatory for well-being, well. Can't make an omelette without cracking a few eggs, right?

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/ohio-michigan-republicans-in-released

[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

All of them are "relatively" safe. As in, its better than the vast majority of the world. Its still not great though.

[–] alphanerd4@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

actually, american problems are american, and not the world's problems or fundamental to the human experience.

[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not sure what your point is

[–] dfc09@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That we can talk about problematic American states even if countries on the other side of the globe have worse issues.

[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I just think its a little excessive to act like you're gonna die if you go to the wrong state when the entire country is miles ahead of most everyone else in that regard. Those aren't the places you're allowed to go, those are the places you personally are willing to go because other places are somewhat more problematic. I live in one of these states where trans people aren't "relatively safe" and I know plenty of trans people who live here just fine. Its like being afraid of cities because they have higher crime rates than small towns.

[–] pop@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Where is this "miles ahead of most everyone else" coming from? Third world shitholes that are third world shitholes? Is this the bar you're comparing yourself too?

I live in one of these states where trans people aren't "relatively safe" and I know plenty of trans people who live here just fine.

There are lgbtq people living fine in despotic regimes too, just not having the freedoms of a normal person. Like when the government wants a reason to jail you for in the authoritarian countries. People are "fine" until you speak out or someone is offended or triggered.

That isn't "fine" in most everywhere else in the developed world but you do you. You "know" plenty of trans people, so all is fine and dandy.

[–] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago

Third world shitholes that are third world shitholes?

Its the rest of the world including third world shit holes. I'm comparing us to the rest of the world. There are many first world countries that are much worse for trans people as well, so I'm not sure what your point is here.

That isn't "fine" in most everywhere else in the developed world but you do you. You "know" plenty of trans people, so all is fine and dandy.

I didn't say everything is fine and dandy. I said its great compared to the rest of the world. If you look at my first comment, I explicitly said it still isn't great overall. Don't put words in my mouth.

All I want is for people to stop acting like they're gonna die if they go to Texas.

[–] dhorse@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As someone FROM AZ their has been a lot of positive change for LGBQT communities, but I would not recommend being out as Trans in public other than known safe spaces. Would love to hear from someone who is still there to tell me I am wrong.

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Really depends. It's a big state lol. Anywhere in Tucson or Flagstaff? Safe as safe can be. The valley is a mixed bag based on which part you're in but generally okay. Anywhere rural is also gonna be pretty hit-or-miss, but for the love of all that you hold dear do not go into The Mojave, Idc how much someone loves Fallout.

[–] Pete_topkevinbottom@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'd say most places in PA aren't very trans friendly. It might be better in Pittsburgh,Harrisburg and Philly. But pretty much everywhere else is a bunch of redneck pennsyltuckyians

[–] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 7 months ago

Might as well slice California into just the bay and LA/SD too. In the North state a lot of it is very backwoodsy folk.

[–] CannedCairn@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Welcome fellow pennsyltyuckian.

[–] casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'm not trans, so I can't speak with full certainty here. But places I've lived and visited in the South, generally I wouldn't label as outright dangerous. From what I've heard and seen, it's probably more dangerous to be black in those parts, as some places in GA for example still have sundown towns.

I've met a number of trans people here who don't remark notably about safety any more than the typical "I have to be careful going out at night cause I'm not able to defend myself" which is not representative of all the LGBTQ folk I met of course and would apply equally to a smol gal.

So while I don't want to discredit you, I really don't think this notion that you've been led to believe holds any water at least from my experience which is admittedly likely not worth much.

But now I'm curious whether the LGBTQ population is by chance more concentrated in these "safe" states? That seems like a more enlightening metric on its own, actually knowing a demographical metric rather than getting just an ominous "avoid everywhere but here"

[–] casual_turtle_stew_enjoyer@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Until proven otherwise, I'm now under the notion that this map actually represents the authors "places I would care to go"

[–] alphanerd4@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

I linked the source. It’s just a map of places that havent instituted any anti-trans laws in the last three years.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

I would never pee in West Virginia outside of a private residence. In my home state of Ohio I’m uncomfortable being in certain parts of the state unless I’m with cis people or driving through.

Safety is a relative term. There are certain areas people avoid, maybe it’s a bad part of town. I avoid certain parts of my state as the bad parts of my state because hate crimes go unpunished there because what flies in hocking hills doesn’t in Cincinnati and vice versa.

Also I avoid the proud boys when they match with guns unless I’m part of an organized anti fascist group that’s there for them.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ohio is mixed. The cities are safe except when occupied by the fascist paramilitary groups like the proud boys. The rural areas are dangerousish

[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That can be said of many states. Is Illinois actually that welcoming outside of Chicago?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Fair, I think the big thing is about the state laws

[–] alphanerd4@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Yes, it’s the Catholicism

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 7 months ago

I'm cisheterowhitedude and I hate going to backwoods places. It's not that I'm in danger, I just don't want to deal with chuds or pay any money that might support them in any way. So I stick to this map also

[–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What happened in New Hampshire?

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

NH is the south of the northeast.

[–] Retrograde@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

That's rough

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

Chicagoland welcomes you. Don't go downstate though. The further south you go the more Kentucky it gets.