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[–] teft@lemmy.world 72 points 7 months ago (8 children)
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[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 37 points 7 months ago (6 children)

I always thought it was weird when people think of Jesus as a literal God.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The trinity. The father the son and the holy ghost. AKA Dissociative identity disorder

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[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)
[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago (24 children)

True, it's just a little too magical for my brain to process. To me he was a prophet and probably a good dude.. but that's probably about it.

To worship a guy as a literal God because his mom had a tale to tell about why she was pregnant, was the beginning of the end of religion making sense for me.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

To me he was a prophet and probably a good dude.. but that's probably about it.

And you have stumbled upon the big difference between Jews, Christians, and Muslims.

Jews already had a list of criteria for the messiah. Jesus didn’t check all of the boxes, so the Jews went “he’s not our messiah. We’ll keep waiting for the real one to show up.”

Christians believe he is the messiah; Literally God given flesh, so He can experience mortality and die for their sins.

Then the Muslims believe he was a prophet, but not the last prophet. They believe the last prophet was Muhammad. Jesus is featured pretty heavily in the Quran, because they do believe he was a prophet. But Muhammad said there would be no more prophets after himself, so anyone new claiming to be one is lying. (Worth noting that this “no new prophets” thing doesn’t negate Jesus’ second coming. Because Jesus wouldn’t be a new prophet, he would be a returning prophet.)

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

He was NOT the Messiah! He was a very naughty boy.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Muhammad out here gatekeeping prophets, it nice Muhammad. I think anyone can be whatever they want to, so long as they try hard.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

I mean, the Bible also discusses an anti-Christ as well. Jesus preached that there would be false prophets.

Almost as if starting a cult requires your followers to actively reject other belief systems.

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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Literally is, at least according to trinitarian doctrine. Handy diagram:

Which of course implies that "isness" is non-transitive which mathematically speaking is bonkers. I mean it's not that you can't have intransitive relations but calling them equivalences is going to raise eyebrows.

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[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

eh, Hercules and Bacchus are; similar situations. I say he gets a pass.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It is just one uppmanship. He didn't start out being thought that way but people kept adding. Whole process took over two centuries

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[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 13 points 7 months ago (4 children)

So what you're saying is that you hate Jesus?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Have you been to one of his churches? Tried one of those wafers they say is him? He tastes awful.

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Never met him. Read his stories, can't say I care for any of the servitude required, and his followers are the worst humans you'll run into around here.

No, thank you.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

I hate him in the sense I hate any fictional character.

Don't think he was really fleshed out, didn't see the point in the larger narrative, and he has the worst fanbase. Even Rick and Morty has a better behaved fandom.

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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think you meant to post this in theologymemes

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago

Theology sucks, all my homies in religion studies.

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 7 months ago

There is no Jesus, only Zuul

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

I mean . . .

[–] uis@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

For context: This is Neptune, she is goddess.

[–] Razzazzika@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] uis@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

Praise with pudding

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

All gods matter equally* (to me, at least).

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