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[–] LostWon@lemmy.ca 96 points 7 months ago (6 children)

GRM is a Christian ministry that requires all residents to work for them without pay for “six hours a day, six days a week in exchange for a bunk for 30 days.” They also cannot look for outside work during that month. That’s not all though. They must also attend church every Sunday (from a pre-approved list); Unitarian services are not acceptable. And they have to attend a chapel service twice a day. And they can’t smoke or drink. And they can’t have sex during their stay

So it's a cult. Why are cults allowed to pull crap like this? This kind of thing should be prosecuted.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago

This sounds like slavery with a free pass...

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 24 points 7 months ago

It's religious abuse. We have to stop them

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

they totally had sex. probably in the chapel. probably during the services. Definitely outside of services.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Why are cults allowed to pull crap like this?

Because it serves the interests of partisan leadership within the state. Loyal foot soldiers desperate enough to bend the knee for this shitty deal are an invaluable human resource that private industry and fascist activism seeks to cultivate.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

There is no cult like a good chunk of American Christian groups.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

This is actually very common amongst religiously founded homeless shelters

[–] Superfool@lemmy.world 55 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] skittlebrau@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago (3 children)

‘Supply side Jesus’ definitely would be.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

is there any other kind of jesus?

I mean, seriously. Think about it. all his anti-rich; socialist stuff. how much to wanna bet he had a cheesy grin and his hand out as he said it?

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago

No hate like Christian love

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Sounds on brand for American Christianity.

Incidentally, Some More News just did a video on this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHdjjXQHxzs

[–] JimboDHimbo@lemmy.ca 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Christians want to go to "hell" sooo fucking bad bro, lmao like why would anyone ask for this and also expect to go to their "good place"??

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Fun fact, Good Place (TV Series, highly recommend to watch)

Good Place spoilerends up being the "bad place" (as in Hell)

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They explore "The Problem of Eternity" in the last season and its a legitimately very good series finale.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago

It is, for me, still the best ending of any TV shoe I have watched. So well executed I couldn't believe it.

[–] ohlaph@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Sounds about right.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Great so that means federal funds would pay for people to not be homeless right? Right?

[–] tearsintherain@leminal.space 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

To be clear it was a specific ministry, the Gospel Rescue Mission, who seem to be militant-crusader-forced-conversion-fundamentalist types.

It’s telling that there’s literally zero mention of “God” anywhere in the brief—which is rather unusual for a Christian group making an argument to the Supreme Court. Especially this Supreme Court. The argument isn’t a religious one because how could it be? The ministry says they have beds available, but for various reasons, many of them are going unused. They must know how bad it would look to justify the cruelty against the homeless using the language of faith. Yet they seem blissfully unaware of how their own religious restrictions may play a significant role in why people with no other options still don’t want to ask them for help.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (4 children)

By what right can they call themselves Christians?

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

There weren't a lot of other options and it sounded better for recruitment than "Selfish Assholes", understandable really.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Don't do that. They're Christians because they said so, there is no standard or membership card. To act like the bad ones aren't "real Christians" is a cop out and ignores the problems within your religion. Own it, fix it, re-educate your fellow believers, don't act like they're not real and sweep them under the rug.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

You may have gotten the impression that I'm claiming their religion. I do not. I just figure they all specifically worship a guy who was definitely homeless and born in a barn.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The same right as every other Christian who has believed in and committed atrocities over the last 2000 years- they worship Christ.

You don't have to follow your religious leader's teachings to worship them.

Most of the Germans who participated in the Holocaust called themselves Christians. Some devoutly said their nightly prayers and went to church every Sunday.

[–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Translation: Whatever "sin" one conducts has none of the consequences, which have been well described and in short, have nothing to do with real life, and one must be accepted by the community via the magic word invocation.

All the rest is just nonsense for anyone intelligent enough to ask questions.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

That and you can interpret the Bible in so many ways that it doesn't really matter what Jesus supposedly said about pretty much anything.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Protestantism, baby! Where the liturgy is made up and the doctrine doesn't matter!

[–] name_NULL111653@pawb.social 1 points 6 months ago

Then there's Catholicism, ubi pater papa penetrit pueris...

[–] StoneOfEternity@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago
[–] SteefLem@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Ah yes a true christian

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

They should make being poor illegal while they're at it