Nice lie, i don't get what the goal is from alienating quarter of the population of the earth when they're the angriest they've ever been
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I talked to some Ukrainians on the platform about this and all they could do is claim foreign vessels are legitimate targets if they're part of a supply chain and supplement it with either racism or "Iranians are oppressed we're doing them a favor by attacking their government"
Just absolutely insane!
Your entire existence is a fucking hate crime!
God i hope his plane hits a chinese balloon and sends him to the depths of the Atlantic
I see, yeah i don't live in US i live in north africa and the first difference i spotted is the propaganda aspect, here there's of course nationalist propaganda and corruption and indoctrination but there's a hard line drawn on government, it's like we're us, we suck, we're horrible and we're mind controlled, but it's all ours, even the mind control, meanwhile the government all of it is "them", no one ever mixes the government with the identity of the people not even the flag is theirs, they're just our bosses
So struggle and resistance is natural, riots or protests is something you'd bring your friends over to or tell your family about not something to avoid or hide
I actually got told once that a riot was taking place over death of someone(it wasn't even caused by the government they just used it as an excuse to bring old wage cuts as an issue) and they told me if i wanted to come and i did! I picked them up and some snacks and we went over to just record from a distance and cheer, you don't get to see this very often, the police also are brutal and they sometimes attack people with vehicles but when the the riots become public they generally stop escalating, maybe they also don't get paid enough for this or are just told to stop, normally they're pretty awful and don't even follow laws as is, they also avoid killing people directly while controlling the riots because someone from us dying is bad enough to start riots, someone dying while rioting is when many public workers just leave on coincidentally timed vacations, i genuinely don't think they organize it either they just know they'll get away with free days because chaos is guaranteed to take place, the government also knows that it's best to have riots last days than to crack down and have a complete shut down of the country because they know we absolutely hate them
Also when people generally tell others about how bad the riots are or protestors get treated it's always in a sympathetic way and are always told to remember the original cause rather than focusing on the damage unless there was theft from small businesses everyone looks down on that because they're us
I didn't understand the idea that you could love governments at all until you brought up propaganda for it, it's so normalized here to have a clear separation of pro country and pro government even when every radio station, TVs and media outlet is blasting pro government agenda and most buildings having pro government pictures or banners, people just look at you weird if you take any of it seriously or remind you how to think properly when it's a 1 one 1, you only take it seriously infront of "them", and they're not us
We also struggle to eat here, sometimes water or electricity just go out due to strain, most meals are more like snacks, but because we're so poor it's actually unprofitable for the large fast food manufacturers to set up shop here so the small businesses like street stalls or stands still give you meals for cheap, i'm not sure how this works in the US since you said people struggle to feed kids, also not to be rude but i think feed is exaggerated sometimes, i only really need loaf of bread and tuna can twice a day and some water/juice and i usually call it being fed for the day
But yeah! We don't actually coordinate anything here people are just extremely angry and that shared anger and the us vs them is what coordinates us, everyone makes sure to turn the country into an ungoverned zone if anything more is taken
You're acting like a brute, what kind of arguments are this?
What we did to other people doesn't matter cause we suffered, plus the ones we attacked are weak Those people are bad so they don't deserve to be defended from us
You guys are actually insane
Russia has the biggest territory on the planet how can you run out of places to strike, actually insane
Why are you commenting about that after they died defending a girl from sexual assault
I don't talk about the complicity of the west in global warming when my friends send me pictures of the extremely dangerous air quality in north america from all the wild fires, they can't control that, they're nice and they're suffering
Why are you bringing this up when that teen died defending a women
Fucking asshole
I don't know how to take this, where i live bringing topic of anti government or protesting or complaining about living standards does not take building material conditions for
What are these material conditions, suffering? Do you guys riot and protest out of choice instead of out of need?
I'm not trying to be dishonest here, where i live if you signal someone to pick you up and you just say the word police to them i don't know who they are they'll pick you up and take you right to your home free of charge, i genuinely do not comprehend the need for some conditions or setup to resist, living is the conditions for it
You need to understand the difference between shitting on people and calling out hypocrisy
Let's follow this train of thought that ended with people believing that rare instances of successful compromised socialism through voting is more socialist than marxism
When a Israel parade takes place in NY people will call it out and demand support for genocidal ethno state cease completely, of course the mayor wants to do that but the power you gain from being voted in is limited, limited by the people allowing you to stay in office, take a look at khan in ICC, this isn't very good because it makes democracy look like a failed system, it isn't we just like to consider the powerful as morally just people that will adhere to it, thinking otherwise is too scary to consider, listen i don't get paid enough to hate governments
So naturally democrats wanting to get any sort of legitimacy for voting even though a pedophile was voted into office(the goal is to maintain stability at the sacrifice of change) will label this criticism or pointing out limits of power of the voted in representatives as an attack on change, the idea here is that any concession allowed by the ruling class must not be judged or criticized, turning the struggle against them into a struggle for them, they did permit us to have Mamdani so we should not question it further and just focus on throwing away the original principles that the movement stood for and instead have Mamdani become the movement to highlight how successful it is, he was the 1 in 100 good apple the system leaked through so there's no way he's suppressed or contained, did i say concession earlier, i meant victory
Now that we've adapted to this new successful view(the 1 in 100 Mamdanism) that keeps giving legitimacy to democracy we can shit on anyone, especially people who used to criticize us, like tankies! But wait we were both against the epstein class, wars in middle east how come we're against them now? Well they must have veered away from their principles of socialism, see socialism is all about democracy(alarm bells) trust me and tankies criticize our democratic representatives, we also agree with them on criticism for 99/100 of the representatives but listen, tankies are enemies, not just any enemies, a bigger enemy than misrepresentation even! If they judge any representative we don't judge then they're against the 1in100Mamdanism movement which is socialism(through elections but don't bring that up now, we made progress here), if they do agree well that's good but it doesn't show greatness of elections and stability so why focus on it
It's better to point at tankies as the evildoers who tried to get in our way whenever the 1in100Mamdanism succeeds again, than to point to the Democrats and republicans that did a smear campaign against him, because we are a fair and functioning democracy, and pointing the latter puts a question mark on something that should never be questioned
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I think it has nothing to do with the reasons they give, they just want to push western narratives of "righteousness"
I've been to political rooms in blahaj before and the discussed politics always boil down to anti-conservatism and anti-russian/chinese imperialism,
US imperialism? You'll be called a tankie and told to stop acting like one to fit in
Israel genocide? You're regressing the progressiveness of empowering jews, stop being overly antisemitic and using tankie sources
Some political news africa? Turn it about weather or not they support LGBTQ rights yet
Riots in south america? Their governments are oppressing them, also stop using tankie sources
There's no way they can be this biased by coincidence, i'm not a tankie and i didn't believe it at first but it's true, Tankie do carry the burden of always being right!