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The original was posted on /r/sbcgaming by /u/AspxctArixs on 2024-08-10 01:22:30+00:00.


Title is pretty much self-explanatory. I got my own handheld about a weeks ago and I just want some games that I can pickup and play anytime and not have to worry about a story or other elements.

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The original was posted on /r/sbcgaming by /u/rchrdcrg on 2024-08-09 23:13:14+00:00.


I have an RG Cube, got the Jaguar emulator BigPEmu running great on it, but I noticed that if you put it to sleep while Winlator is running something, the device seems to go to sleep, the thumbsticks lights go off, the fan goes off, but the app continues to run and absolutely HAMMERS the CPU.

I discovered this in the safety of home in an open space, but I forgot about it, left a game running, put it in the case and left in my car for an hour, and OMG I've never felt any device get that hot before. Even after holding it to my car's AC for five minutes it was still hot. I'm genuinely amazed I didn't totally fry the thing, it was actually hot enough to burn if I'd held it long enough, and that's not hyperbole... It hurt.

Just a PSA to anyone dabbling with Winlator on your handhelds to make sure it's not secretly running while the handheld is asleep!

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The original was posted on /r/sbcgaming by /u/pigpentcg on 2024-08-09 11:53:30+00:00.


Two days ago, I finally got around to setting up my laptop as my main syncthing machine, and setting it up to sync my save folder from all of my different devices.

Yesterday I took my RG35XX+ to work and played a ton of Pokemon Unbound. When I got home, I did the button tape mod on my SP and wanted to continue where I left off on my Plus.

I turned on my laptop, and both devices, filled up my water bottle and loaded Unbound up on my SP, and it loaded me directly into my last Save State! 😳

I just can’t believe I put this off for so long. No more manually transferring save data between devices! I can swap between them freely!

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The original was posted on /r/sbcgaming by /u/TheHumanConscience on 2024-08-09 02:48:53+00:00.


Hi all, so my Ampown XU Mini M arrived today and I played on it for an hour or so. Here's my initial impressions. I'll be comparing to other devices as a reference point.

  • Considerably bigger than the A30/MM V4. It's thicc but comfortable to hold. Big difference compared to the other 2.8" competitors in feeling both in hand and in the pocket. It's roughly as thick as the Miyo Mini over the battery compartment. The Miyoo Mini is much smaller than the XU Mini M.
  • Display is very bright. A30/Miyoo Mini V4 look dark in comparison. The XU Mini at only 25% brightness is roughly max brightness on the A30/Miyoo V4. That being said the A30 has much better color balance/accuracy. The Xu Mini could benefit from some panel tuning.
  • The stereo sound on the XU Mini is really good. I noticed a bit of fuzzing noise on SNES Super Mario World but didn't notice it playing Streets of Rage 2, so it may be a software issue but will try additional platforms to be sure.
  • OS while very basic is easy enough to navigate. Game selection included Mario games which was refreshing but PS1 games are crap PAL editions or missing CD audio. Need to do more testing here but something is off when playing PS1. Didn't see any way to increase resolution via RH menu so this has to be fixed as PS1 is being held back and looks crappy compared to the A30 not running at 640*480.
  • Fired up Wave Race 64 and was blown away by the sticks. Huge improvement over A30/35XX-H and others. No cardinal snapping issues, very easy to walk a balance beam in Mario 64 compared to Anbernic 35XX-H. They are better than expected and probably the standout feature of this device. N64 isn't just "playable", it's actually enjoyable on it.
  • PSP worked better than expected. Played Castlevania and while there was some mild stutters akin to shader compilation, it was perfectly playable.
  • DPAD is pretty good although I noticed a few false diagonals when playing Kirby Mirror on GBA. More false diagonals than RG28XX but the dpad itself feels good. Larger than 28XX but smaller and less mushy then the A30.
  • Face buttons are just OK. Good enough but remind me of mini RGB30 buttons. They do the job and have decent enough resistance and travel but aren't up to Anbernic or Miyoo Mini/A30 standards.
  • Triggers are a little too stiff for my liking, but feel good enough to press. Thinking they'll break in nicely but only time will tell. Better placement and feeling over the 28XX, but not quite as nice as the A30.

tldr;

This one is good guys, the software needs some attention as we really need access to RH advanced menu's to upscale screen resolution etc, but nothing is a deal breaker. It's totally playable out the box and wouldn't be a problem as a gift to someone starting out. If you ordered one you won't be disappointed. Overall it bests the 28XX and A30 pretty easily on the hardware side, let's hope they address the software shortcomings.

Nice case and included glass screen protector and lanyard are great to have as extras. Saves having to spend another $7-10 bucks which you have to do with the 28XX.

Let me know if you have any questions.

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Finished product around 19 minutes.

Warning, some fairly sketchy cutting and gluing, "not safe for lunch" for people who care about old original hardware.

From Australian guy James who has a channel about odd/old gaming hardware.

You might have come across him from appearances on DankPods and spin off Garbage Time.

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The original was posted on /r/sbcgaming by /u/hbi2k on 2024-03-22 20:46:25+00:00.


Updated 2024-08-02; see change log in the comments

This post is intended to give a broad overview to newcomers to the dedicated handheld emulation device scene who may not know what's reasonable to expect at what price point. Something that can be counterintuitive to newcomers is that how hard or easy a system is to emulate doesn't always track 1:1 with how powerful we think it is. We tend to think of the PS1, Saturn, and N64 as being contemporaries and roughly equal in power, for example, but in reality PS1 can run pretty well on a potato, N64 is trickier and needs more power than most budget devices can provide to run the entire catalog really well, and Saturn is notoriously difficult to run well and is stuck in the "may be able to run some games" category on many otherwise capable devices.

If you're a newbie that's been linked here, consider watching a few videos by Retro Game Corps, a popular YouTuber and reviewer around these parts. He goes over some of his favorite devices of 2023 and the first half of 2024 in various categories, and while I don't agree with all of his picks and others have become outdated very quickly, it can be useful to see what some of these devices look like in the hand. Links in this post are mostly to RGC video reviews or setup guides of these devices.

All that said, I've sorted various consoles you might want to emulate and various devices you might try to emulate them on into four broad "tiers":

Tier 1: PS1 and Below

  • Price: $40-$140
  • Systems That Should Run Fine: NES, GB, GBC, Genesis / Megadrive, SNES, GBA, PS1
  • Systems that "may" be able to run "some" games: Dreamcast, DS, N64, PSP, Saturn
  • Chips to Look Out For: JZ4770, RK3326, RK3566, Allwinner H700, Allwinner A133Plus
  • Devices to Consider: Anbernic RG35XX family (incl RG40XXH), Miyoo Mini+, TrimUI Smart Pro, Powkiddy RGB30

At this price point, consider watching this broad overview comparing several standout devices under $100 in more detail than I'm able to hit here.

I could easily have included a dozen more devices in the "to consider" section; there are a LOT of devices in this general tier, with lots of little differences in form factor, feature set, etc. There are also a lot of devices running the JZ4770 or RK3326 chips that are technically outdated, but if you're happy sticking with PS1 / SNES and below, they're still perfectly good and may have advantages such as a particular form factor you're looking for that newer more powerful devices don't have. They may also be available on sale or lightly used for cheaper than newer devices. Note that JZ4770 and comparable chips may struggle with a handful of the absolute hardest-to-run SNES and PS1 titles.

The newer RK3566 chipset and comparable Allwinner chipsets such as the H700 won't quite get you all the way to "just-works, no hassle" performance of N64 or any of the other systems in the "some" category, but they're not much more expensive (and may even be cheaper depending on what sales are going on and shipping costs to your part of the world). I've listed the "some" systems in rough ascending order of how hard they are to run, but it's going to vary a lot depending on the individual game you're trying to play. On N64, for example, Mario Kart 64 is a pretty easy game to run and will probably run fine on the RK3566 (I've had decent results on the RK3326), but Goldeneye or Conker's Bad Fur Day will probably not be playable. Some N64 games run better or worse on different emulator apps or Retroarch cores, so you may be able to experiment with different options and/or enable frame skip to get some medium-weight games playable.

Keep in mind that the PSP runs in 16:9, and most devices in this tier have 3.5" 4:3 screens or similar. Even lighter PSP games that run okay performance-wise will not look good when letterboxed or stretched on such a small screen with such a drastic aspect ratio mismatch. Keep in mind also that devices in this tier may or may not have touchscreens, which may limit what Nintendo DS games you can play even where performance is not a concern. Most also have only one 4:3 screen, requiring you to use a hotkey to switch which DS screen you're viewing, further limiting what games you can usefully play.

Most devices in this tier run Linux-based firmware. Setup is usually very easy: download the firmware image, flash it to an SD card, drag and drop your ROM and BIOS files, and you're done. Some devices, such as the Anbernic RG353V, RG353P, and RG353M, can dual-boot into Android. This will give you access to different emulator apps that may be able to run some systems, especially N64, slightly better. I personally don't consider this feature super worth it because the price on those devices starts to overlap with more powerful dedicated Android devices in the next tier.

Tier 2: PSP and Below

  • Price: $100-$150
  • Systems That Should Run Fine: everything from Tier 1, Dreamcast, DS, N64, PSP
  • Systems that "may" be able to run "some" games: Saturn, GameCube, PS2, Wii, 3DS, Vita, Switch
  • Chips to Look Out For: T610, T618, Dimensity D900, Snapdragon 845
  • Devices to Consider: Retroid Pocket 2S, Anbernic RG405M, Retroid Pocket 4 Base

Once again, there are a lot more devices I could have listed under "devices to consider," including several older devices that are still perfectly good, but have largely been eclipsed by newer devices offering more power or better build quality at a similar price point.

The vast majority of devices in this tier run Android, which will require a much more involved setup process than the predominantly Linux-based handhelds in Tier 1. Where Linux-based firmwares typically have all of the emulator apps preinstalled and preconfigured, Android-based devices typically require the user to manually install and configure each emulator app individually. Expect a greater learning curve, but if you want good performance on systems that struggle in previous tiers like N64 and PSP, that's kind of the price of entry.

Most devices in this tier have 4:3 or 16:9 screens in various sizes. Although PSP should run between pretty good and fantastic from a performance perspective, keep in mind that if you have a 4:3 device, 16:9 PSP games may display too small or distorted to be a very good experience. Keep in mind also that when playing DS and 3DS games on 4:3 devices, you will need to use a hotkey to switch screens. 16:9 devices will give you more flexibility for displaying both 3/DS screens at once, but smaller screens may limit how useful it is to try to display both screens side-by-side. Most Saturn games should run just fine at native resolution in this tier, but I still listed it as a "may / some" system because it's a notoriously tricky system to emulate, some games may still experience problems, and I haven't tested it at all on any of my own devices.

Much like N64 and PSP in the previous category, PS2 and GameCube performance is going to be very spotty in this tier. Many games will run, but expect to experience noticeable performance problems with many titles, to need to do a lot of tinkering with performance hacks and advanced emulator settings, and to deal with the fact that your favorite game may just plain not run well no matter what you do. I would caution the reader, when looking at video reviews of older devices such as the Ayn Odin 1 Lite and Pro, to consider the date they were reviewed. Newer devices (see the next tier below) have changed the landscape sufficiently that devices that were once considered as good as it gets for 6th-gen performance are now considered middling at best.

There are community-run spreadsheets that purport to tell you what you can expect from various games on various chipsets / devices, but I try to caution people to take them with a grain of salt. These spreadsheets are crowdsourced with very little oversight. Anyone can submit an entry; there is no requirement that you play a certain amount of the game or, frankly, that you know what you're talking about at all. I've seen several entries that were clearly added by someone who ran around the first area for fifteen minutes and called it a day, as well as some that are just plain misinformation by any measure. These spreadsheets can be a useful tool if you're looking for suggestions for what advanced settings to try tweaking, but they're dangerous as a buying guide. There are also lots of "footage roundup" videos on YouTube, some more trustworthy, some less, showing various games running on a device. Keep in mind that it's easy to cherrypick footage from the smoothest-running sections, and that the cycle skip settings necessary to get some games running at full speed / frame rate can introduce so much input lag that even though a game looks great on video, it feels terrible to actually play...


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Looking for a device for work travel. Would like recommendations on small form factor.

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