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For discussion of the history of the internet... and especially the present state of the internet, whatever ever-changing state that may be. Link to an archive of curated online content about the internet can be found within, please help add to and back up the archive where it will never be truly lost.

Please read the community rules BEFORE posting.

Sister site to the version on the Lemmy.zip instance.

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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by ToyDork@sh.itjust.works to c/web3_xr@sh.itjust.works
 
 

RULES


  1. Mods, including myself, are not allowed to ban ANYONE for a period of over 2 years, except as punishment for breaking this rule. If a mod of c/web3_xr bans someone for more than the listed times below, or bans someone in excess of 730 days (or 731 days if one of those days is the 29th of February on a leap year), the offending mod will be permanently removed from their position and will receive a ban of a length double to that of the ban which they gave to another. If more than one mod was involved in violating this rule, or more than one person was wrongfully banned, the offending mod(s) will be given double the combined ban lengths they maliciously gave.
  • Mods are not exempt from the rules; if banned for any length of time, immediate removal from your assigned position will accompany it.
  • Deleting content (aside from bot-generated spam) is against community rules. Doing so will result in you being reported to the instance mods and your content will be restored once you have been permanently banned to protect content from removal. The only exception to this (again, aside from bot-generated spam) is the portions of content which are or contain illegal content involving underage minors (see rule 1).
  1. Legally, we cannot archive or post links to sexual content containing fictional minors, due to the hosting of both sh.itjust.works and lemmy.zip being located in Canada and the United States of America respectively. Please read this for more information. To make this fair when such content IS allowed in nations like Japan and Colombia, while pornographic images of real children are not legal in those same countries, and due to my disgust with the content of fictional explicit content involving minors but also my anger with non-sexual NSFW content involving fictional minors being legal, and my disapproval of the cruel treatment of people seeking psychological treatment - in both my home country and elsewhere - for their condition/kink, I (u/Gadg8eer) will be banning ALL discussion of such content, including discussion of this very rule. This is punishable by up to a two year ban.
  • HOWEVER, aside from the illegal links and the images themselves, NO such discussion is allowed to ever be deleted. Breaking this rule, even by mods, and regardless of motive or opinion, will result in a two year ban that can ONLY be rescinded by me (u/Gadg8eer) due to the sheer controversy and bigotry (ageism, racism, popularism and sexism) involved and (for what its worth) my inability to trust anyone else to be neutral on such a subject, which is why all discussion will remain hosted (but hidden by NSFW spoiler tags) as evidence of both moderative and judicial importance. Discussing this rule in any way is also forbidden, I have already banned someone for 2 years for discussing this topic in regards to defederation, so do not test me on this.
  1. Defederation is a blight on the fediverse in my mind, and while I am not authorative on the matter, or willing to abuse my position, discussion of defederation can only be justified by hostile "combat" by instance A to instance B that is not addressed by the admins of instance A, and must be refederated if instance A ever does address it. Any other attempt to "justify" defederation will be reviewed and, if found to be antithetical to the fair and permanent existence of morally-acceptable ("Don't be a jerk or be evil; nobody likes to be unfairly hurt") online content, will result in a 1 month ban on the first and 6 months on the second strike, and a 2 year ban on the third strike.
  2. Alt accounts are only allowed insofar as not being created for spam or harassment. Due to a lack of moderation tools as of this writing, stay tuned for updates to this rule.

Appeal Process

Please private message a member of the staff to resolve any issues where you believe you've been wrongfully banned. If the mods themselves are considered corrupt, you may bring up one report per month with u/Gadg8eer by private message to express these issues.

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The internet is slowly dying. I wish we could just say "it was, but then archive.org and other archives showed up", but turns out that now sites like TV Tropes, deviantArt, Twitter and Reddit are losing content for one reason or another. Only some of their content can likely be saved at this point.

Links rot over a period of 20 years, until almost nothing is left. ARPANET is gone, except a handful of records about how the first node was created in the 1960s. BBSes of the 80s are gone. The 90s, the dawn of the World Wide Web, is nearly absent, and so is most of the Turn of the Millennium.

Now we're seeing the disappearance of information from as little as 5 years ago, because sites are being targeted by people who want the information on them gone. Many, many websites have been destroyed because they refused to self-archive, and with the sole exception (thankfully) of Wikipedia, nobody on the internet is completely publicly archiving everything.

From the efforts of egotistical PC gaming modders for games like Transport Tycoon who took and continue to take down their mods out of spite for the actions of a few community members, to governments bringing down tvlinks.cc and then MegaShare, to the hacker who apparently deleted y!gallery, to the dumbing down of Google searches to only provide three pages before no more results are shown, content is being lost every day for reasons that are far from justifiable.

Attacks on the internet as a whole - both successful and unsuccessful - like TWEA, CDA, COPA, DMCA, DOPA, SOPA, PIPA, CISPA, CISA, FOSTA-SESTA or the EARN IT bill; all in the USA alone - are an almost yearly occurence. Hitting closer to home for sh.itjust.works, Bill C-10/C-11 is just one Canadian bill attempting to "kill" the internet within the country.

I do see a light at the end of the tunnel, however. Plugins like Archiveror for Firefox, and systems like Zotero for saving research to a local or cloud storage, make it easy to back up everything you want to find but cannot trust to a bookmark alone. Web Archive Viewer is useful for viewing such archives easily. Perma.cc allows you to keep links indefinitely even if you stop paying your subscription (IIRC), but restricts how many links you can make permanent per month based on subscription level.

So please, if you see this, and think of or find something you see on the internet that you want to preserve, make the effort to do so! If you care, then someone else might as well. Then post a link here to share it with others.

I'll also provide this curated content for anyone wanting to learn more about the history and changing nature of the internet. If you see anything there that you want to stick around, please re-post it here and at least one place elsewhere to prevent it from being lost if Guilded no longer exists.

While we don't condone the archiving of immoral content, I will hold that only content that directly leads to/from an immoral act should be destroyed forever; if the "crime" is victimless, like online piracy of media which is not being circulated or recreational drug use, it should not have to be purged from the federation of lemmy/kbin just because governments say so; governments are partly to blame for this mess in the first place.

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I wish they'd consider Fediverse integration, but other than that the site looks like it has a promising future!

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Please post the current inflation-adjusted equivalent of $1200 "2024 Dollars" and the current date if you read this and the date is no longer 2024.

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Crossposted for posterity.

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cross-posted from: https://kbin.social/m/technology@lemmy.world/t/678410

A newly discovered trade-off in the way time-keeping devices operate on a fundamental level could set a hard limit on the performance of large-scale quantum computers, according to researchers from the Vienna University of Technology.

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/10443981

It was a collection of silly quotes from IRC channels everywhere, many of which dated back to the 90s. It was rarely ever updated in the 2010s, but now, the URL no longer resolves.

Last capture was July 2023. https://web.archive.org/web/20230601000000*/bash.org

EDIT Someone archived all the quotes on the Internet Archive.

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cross-posted from: https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/25185

It started as an answer to a comment, but then I figured it might be worth a post on it's own.

So here you go:

  1. The blackout was not noticeable in terms of engagement. There were plenty of threads that still got tens of thousands of upvotes, so the frontpage didn't look more empty than before. There were just some missing subs and an occasional reference to the blackout on the subs that were closed. The impact was much, much smaller than people here and over at lemmy suggest. Of course your personal frontpage is a lot more empty if you subscribed to the subs that are part of the blackout. It's absolutely not the case for /all though.
    Additionally, the blackout trackers are confusing. They show how many subs went black in relation to a total amount. Many people, me included, at first thought the total was the actual total amount of active subs, while in reality it was only the subs that pledged to close down. Reddit has up to 140,000 active subs, so in fact not even 5% closed.
    The attempt to show that reddit is generally uninteresting without a certain part of mods and users failed.

  2. The API/3PA changes affect like 5-10% of users, so for most this isn't even a problem. I was really surprised when I found out about that number yesterday, because i thought it would be more like 20-30% for whatever reason. Every time there is a discussion about 3PAs that fact is omitted, so that the problem seems larger than it is. Why should the overwhelming majority that doesn't use 3PAs care about that topic?

  3. The company doesn't consist of total morons. The user base of reddit is known to have a certain amount of people who are able to organize a protest network (think back to the net neutrality protest). They knew this was going to happen and it was already priced in. They stay on their path because reddit will be more profitable than before. They are losing troublemakers (aka people who want to have a say in their company policies aka us) with this move and will probably gain a multitude of new users with whatever they are aiming for. Everyone is asking why they have 2000 employees. Well, a bunch of them are surely hired in the marketing department. I assume they studied that shit and know exactly what they are doing. They certainly have business psychologists, marketing experts, data scientists.

To reword what I'm trying to say here: Instagram et al aren't that huge because they do what the users want, but because the companies know how to shape a service to cater to the majority of people. Reddit will do the same. In capitalism, going public is the logical step for a company to scale with their amount of clients. Catering to shareholders is inseparable from that, so rationalization is inevitable. The users who recognize that seem to be a minority. This minority is moving to the fediverse now, which, to put it in a more optimistic light, is kind of a win-win situation.

  1. I'm starting to care less about all that. I reflected about my reddit usage and figured that I mostly subscribed to smaller communities anyways. I rarely commented in subs that regularly got more than 1000 upvotes for their contributions. Having hundreds of comments under a post gets annoying fast, because you'll be having a hard time being part of a conversation and there is no way to find out if the thing you wanted to say wasn't already said anyways.

Posting was already starting to get annoying in medium-sized subs. I asked a question about fungus gnats in my plant pots, specifically pointing out that I want to use chemicals and not nematodes. Guess what? About 30 people recommended nematodes anyways. I don't want this low quality spam, so I'd rather have a smaller community where people read before posting and not comment for the sake of commenting. I'm also okay with the Fediverse having multiple communities about identical topics. The mycology subs on reddit where flooded with ID requests of the same mushrooms multiple times a day, so people cared rarely to help identifying, because of course there is no incentive to write the same thing multiple times a day. Having that phenomenon spread out between multiple communities will take the load of a single community and their mods to handle these low effort posts. Yes, having really small communities is shit because nothing happens and it gets a self-enforcing effect until everyone leaves. Having huge communities sucks because of the reasons I named. Medium-size are the best. A few thousand subscribers, a few threads a day, a few dozen comments per thread. That's my personal optimum for the communities I want to interact with.

  1. I don't think the Fediverse will grow rapidly and I don't think it needs to. We saw the rapid growth of mastodon after apartheid clyde took over twitter. The rapid shrinking of the active userbase a few weeks after was seen as a proof of its failure. But why is hardly anyone talking about the fact that the userbase three-folded compared to before? Sounds like a huge success to me, something any for-profit company would dream of. The same will happen to "reddit alternative"-services. We saw an influx of users in the last days (I was part of that), we will see another influx around July 1st and when old.reddit is shut down. Surely some decline here and there, but most probably constant growth when looking at a larger timescale the more the idea spreads and the more content is generated.

The shittification of for-profit platforms will continue indefinitely, users will always be driven away from them. Services come and go, there will be new trends, older concepts will be seen as outdated. It has always been like this, it will happen to services on the fediverse, too. But the fediverse as a general structure has huge potential, because it's a perfect base to adapt to these changes. The widespread confusion about how it works will sort itself out by more and more people understanding it and explaining it to their peers. It had to be done with internet/email 20 to 30 years ago, it still has to be done with things like 2FA. I'm a tech-savvy person and still find a lot of functions on the Instagram app unnecessarily confusing, but its one of the most used apps worldwide. Confusion will not stop people from joining a cool thing.

So, I guess I got you until the half of my post and you thought I would only be ranting about the situation. But its the opposite: as a matter of fact I'm firmly on the optimistic site of things :)

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/343664

With the fediverse growing seeming to grow really fast these days, and covering the twitter & reddit spaces, I've been wondering what other social media can be covered by the fediverse.

While admittedly, both reddit and twitter has brought this upon themselves, I'd love to see more move towards the fediverse

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cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/482585

Using Beehaw's /c/gaming community as an example: Can someone please explain why I am still able to view this community and even see new posts? I also saw a few posts from beehaw users themselves in the last day. According to the explanation from the admins, I should be able to see posts in /c/gaming ONLY from other lemmy.world users, however that does not appear to be the case. I am seeing content from other instances, including beehaw. Can someone explain?

I read the explanation for defederation like 20 times and I still don't understand. It is incredibly confusing so if someone could explain this properly, that would be great. Thanks!

The thing I’m confused about is whether or not we should be seeing posts from anyone on /c/gaming @beehaw.org (as an example) that’s not from lemmy.world. Does that make sense? According to the admin’s post here, we shouldn’t, however I am still seeing a few posts that look new. Is this due to the caching issues? Because I’m definitely not seeing ALL of the new posts, just a handful. This is what i cannot seem to get a straight answer on. The below says no, however I definitely am 100% seeing posts from non-lemmy.world users on /c/gaming@beehaw.org…

https://lemmy.world/post/149743

“This won’t ever stop. You’ll notice that all posts after defederation are only from lemmy.world users. You won’t see posts/comments from ANY other instance (including instances that ) on beehaw.org communities. Those communities will quickly suck for us, as we’re only talking to other lemmy.world users. Your posts/comments are not being sent to any other lemmy. I highly recommend just unsubscribing from those communities, since they’re pretty pointless for us to be in right now.”

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Couldn't agree more.

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cross-posted from: https://kbin.social/m/canada@lemmy.ca/t/92256

Shopify CEO promises to fight the request, calling the action ‘low-key overreach.’ Expert says data includes ‘everything the CRA needs to audit these businesses.’

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Chromium is trash and needs spankings >:(

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/940899

Useful site for planning activities. It also gives a good idea of where fires are burning, in case you've sort of gotten burned out by headlines.

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cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/213731

Hey all

Today, I am thrilled to share two significant developments with you that will determine our shared future.

Firstly, the issue of donations. Since the inception of this instance, your most frequent request has been the ability to make contributions to support my initiative. While initially, I had never intended to accept donations, I've come to realize the value this brings in ensuring our platform's sustainability. In response to your requests, within the next week, I will be introducing several options for those of you who wish to donate. I want to emphasize that these donations are entirely optional and will directly support our instance's operational necessities - dedicated hardware, colocation fees, email services, and more.

The second announcement needs a full disclosure: it could be an extraordinary idea or potentially not so. Since the beginning of this instance, I've seen a number of insightful posts, recommendations, and ideas that the community has put forward, often superior to what I could have conceptualized myself. Even our instance's name was born from one of your suggestions.

Frequently, I'm approached by users seeking clarity on our rules and guidelines or expressing their thoughts on existing rules. In reflecting upon this, it became clear to me that I've been attempting to determine what's best for the community. But who am I to make these decisions? Just two weeks ago, I was a user among you all. Hence, I'm moving away from the traditional role of decision-making.

Instead, I want to hand over the reins of decision-making to you - the community. I'm excited to announce the creation of a community called agora where you can express your desires for the future of this instance. It's up to you to come together, discuss, and reach a consensus. If you wish to add, remove, or modify a rule, make a post, garner support from other members, and I'll implement the change. This invitation extends beyond our immediate community - I welcome input from everyone across the fediverse. Again to be clear, I gave an example of modifying rules but this applies to anything that I have the ability to do on this instance.

As the instance owner, I only have one caveat to add - any decisions made should not jeopardize the instance's existence or result in legal complications. Aside from that, I'm eager to see where this new direction takes us.

Thank you for your ongoing support, creativity, and engagement.

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/541703

So yeah... maybe the turtle slowly waking up that he was just a Laptog for reddit and thrown away as soon as they didnt need him anymore ( moderation is allways a volunteer thing and shouldnt be like a 2nd job ).

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Web³ (www.thewebcubed.xyz)
 
 

A site about Web³? It's very vague and buzzword-y and reads like a sales pitch, but looks like a weird modern hacker collective site. Strange.

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